Holyass Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Gateway's npcs. Right now they have unlimited ammo to their gun and yet we stuck to having a limited ammo, I know that they fire slowly but if they had a SMG gun then there no way that you can even peak to shot due to the SMG 3 round brust make it into a steam of hail of bullets not allowing you to even try to shot back. I just want to get a Feel on the whole player base if they want to keep it as if or change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 They are absolutely brainless and couldn't shoot a fish in a barrel even if the barrel in question was the one on their gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeletalElite Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Itd be way too easy to cheese if their ammo was limited, as body in a rolling chair, wait for ammo to run out. the kill and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideCat Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 With body on rolling chair trick, it's really easy to deal with those NPCs (except Russians, because you can't get gun from that gateway). Making NPCs having unlimited ammo will make things much easier and there's will be no challenge at all in gateway. Just imagine they're carrying ammo pack with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideCat Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Now I'm having a question, why syndicate terrorists dropping guns from "Wild West" gateway, but russians in "Russian Station" don't? Edited August 9, 2017 by SideCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 wild west is hard, russian station is piss easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZN23X Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Rumiluntti said: russian station is piss easy Except for gateway noobs like me I think that's part of the thing here is there is certain players who have seen every gateways dozens of times and no exactly what's in them and where and how to deal with it. Then you have people like me who are new to gateways and pretty much die in any of them you are capable of dying in. The noobs feels like they are too hard cuz they haven't learned how to deal with them yet and may feel they need to be easier cuz of that...but then they'd be even easier for the vets. I don't think they need to be easier, just noting that I am in fact a noob at them. I've literally yet to see the same gateway twice. If you think about it that happens with almost everything in the game. Antags. Jobs. "I'm new at this and it's difficult so it needs to be easier" meanwhile the people who have done it forever make it look easy. Everything just has a steep learning curve. Edited August 9, 2017 by ZN23X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyass Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Well, I'm thinking for the noob gateway player, right now they don't even have a range weapon too they kill a npc that drop one or request one from the warden... nearly all the time the warden will say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 NPC mobs don't need nerfs at all. With a bit of strategy you can completely annihalate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyass Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 I'm saying that they need one but how you rate of new players the % to beat it or even just to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 The gateway missions should be difficult, and hard to survive. It's something you're going out of your way to do. Most gateway missions provide you with ranged options inside them anyways, and even if they don't, it's very simple to just cheese the mobs as others have mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Balancing the game for new players is bad idea. This is not supposed to be an easy game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPyrolord Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Yeah... the types of gateways that have the 'harder' mobs to face are typically the gateways with the larger rewards to them, even then they are pretty easy to take out if you play it correctly as well, they are like braindead monkeys who only have one thing on their mind, shoot directly at person. Past these guys or even if you kill them there is typically loot they drop you can use to face future types of these foes from range yourself with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malphystoh Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I mean... I wish they had HARDER and more life like AI, but we make due with what we got :) I wish they were smarter and acted like people, had a random chance to charge you for melee combat instead of just shooting and hiding perpetually, or spider wise giving it a 1/4th chance to swerve to kinda make it seem like they are dodging and so on and so on. There's certainly a lot of room for improvement for the NPC Simple MoB AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSplinter Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 make the IPC's smart based on the Gear you have, like, a russian engaging a guy with a c-20r and a elite hardsuit is not really realistic at all, then , we could make the NPC's flee next to other of their type based on your gear, so, if you have alot of good things they will fight you on 2x1 or 3x1 for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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