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  1. 2 minutes ago, necaladun said:

    It's hard to define exactly what creepy means for everyone, but "causing an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease." is the google definition, which I assume is roughly what Fox was going off.

    What you were saying caused an unpleasant feeling of unease, so you were asked to knock it off. "OP is gay" is something you shouldn't be saying, as well. Hence being told to knock this stuff off as administrative action.

    Calling someone who is telling you to knock something off "bro", especially someone who doesn't know you well, can come across as creepy too, as it's a familiar term to some. Being familiar with someone who doesn't know you - and is also acting as an administrator, and telling you to stop something - can make people uneasy.

     

    Saying "OP is gay" was just making fun of reddit users, not actually referring to anyone in the server. And yeah, whilst I understand, I don't agree with this, however I won't do it again. You can resolve the complaint.

  2. 6 hours ago, necaladun said:

    Yes indeed, and apologies for the delay. Xerides has been on my back to get this one but IRL has been very busy for me lately - and I wasn't really aware of any further questions or discussion to be had here.

    It seems like you're now at least aware that if an admin tells you to stop, you're to stop. You've said this is an error on your end, the acknowledgement of which would be good for an appeal. 

    If there are further clarifications you need, post them here, otherwise let us know if this can be resolved.

    Sure I know, but in the banning reason it said my behaviour was "creepy", I can see how it seemed spammy. I don't know why what I said in the first place even warranted any administrative action in the first place, whether it was being told to stop or being banned because of it. I would like a further elaboration on this.

  3. 1 hour ago, Veloxi said:

     

    Last week, and this week, I've played a shift as Captain, where the Magistrate was actively antagonistic toward the Head of Security.

    Now, I get that the Magistrate is the highest authority in Space Law on the station.
    If the HoS says, "Send them to Perma!" and the Magistrate says, "Nope, not enough evidence." then the suspect goes free.

    What I'm talking about though is a Magistrate who sits in the processing room and does this kind of armchair quarterback thing on everything the Head of Security is doing.

    For example: "HoS fed too much holy water to the vampire, are you going to do something about it Captain, or do I need to fax CC?"
    Note, the Vampire didn't die, the Magistrate was just concerned that the vampire was mistreated.

    This is the kind of problem with karma roles that hold as much power as the magistrate does. Things like these aren't stuff to get you noted or job banned (typically), and by itself is no issue. But the 'stress' that comes with playing security is that nothing comes by itself - if you have a traitor bombing the medbay, you also happen to have a changeling breaking into the armoury. If you have a permabrig prisoner getting broken out by an unknown EC, well, sucks to be you because there is a terror spider nest in the chapel, etc etc.. The magistrate being an asshat just because they want to or feel that they need to nitpick security is the worst, mostly because of the authority that they hold(not being in the traditional CoC, ultimate authority in space law unless it's an extreme where they are clearly wrong, etc).  

  4. The thing I did: Somehow got brigged within 30 minutes of the round as a vampire traitor.

    Vampires and traitors, on their lonesome are a force to be reckoned with. I've seen hijack traitors play around with ERT crews and security as well as vampires doing the same without getting caught (or letting themselves be caught) several times, and I feel that I'm not the best but not the worst at playing an antagonist - I got caught making a stunprod as the HoS saw me (since I was making it in the auxiliary tool storage room) as they walked by. I had already gotten a shitton of traitor gear so I decided I wasn't going to settle for being caught. Until I ran into a borg, while waiting to be let into engineering (to kill an atmos tech, as was my objective) and just got completely shit on by it. 

    The excuse: Was very sloppy, I should've done it in a maintenance room or hell, I should've dashed the second the borg caught sight of me, but instead I got cocky and thought I could probably walk things off. Clearly, I couldn't.

    What I learned: Always be wary - I've noticed a lot of the more 'robust' antagonist players always have this mentality (or mindset) that whatever they are doing WILL guaranteed get them caught - unless they prepare accordingly, however. Breaking into the captain's office? Do it from the gravity generator. Want to get an ablative vest? Break in from space. Need to kill someone? Lure them into a quiet, solemn place and rip their goddamn head off with a holoparasite. I've always either been on an extreme when playing as an antagonist - INCREDIBLY stealthy to the point of nitpicking how I'd get caught by doing X, or overtly open, whipping out a banana peel and eswording someone in a main hallway. I suppose to be a good, or "robust" antagonist player is to mix the both of these. Always assume that you will be caught without the proper precautions, and at the same time read the situation appropriately - "Will a security officer REALLY be walking around in departures? I'm sure I can kill X here without being caught.".

  5. 48 minutes ago, Cazdon said:

    Vox compared to their Slime and Plasma 45 Karma counter parts, have had the benefit of a long history. They've existed for a longer time and have had huge swathes of lore written for them, making roleplaying as them a far easier task. Compare the wiki pages of the three, and you'll see Vox have the benefit of a lot of background lore, which is huge in the roleplay department, especially if you're roleplaying 'as a race.'  And in terms of race, yeah I'd say Vox players are typically do better with roleplaying because they actually have material to work with. . .

    Plasmamen are supposedly religious, and slimepeople are supposedly (former?) tribals. However, not enough (and by that, I mean VERY few) players use that to their advantage, which is why it seems like vox have more indepth lore when in actuality it's pretty much the same aside from the wiki going about on the roles vox arkships have.

  6. 17 hours ago, Joe Kerbel said:

     

    What I feel like I should do in the future, is let the hostile retreat and hold my ground. Lose the battle to not lose the war, or something like that. When I am reacting to the actions of another player, who has the element of surprise, all the cards are stacked against me. They are in control. When they are doing hit and runs from the maintenance, I must hold my ground and think, instead of reacting blindly. Sure there are times when I should chase them into the maintenance, but in many cases, that is just the domain, where they are in control, and I am forced to react to their initiative. 
     

    I am beginning to feel that a big part of what leads into “shitcurity” is blind reacting to the actions of our adversaries in situations, where it makes little sense. I feel like this can be improved by being mindful of the fact, that you most likely do not need to chase them into the dark maint NOW, but you should instead regroup and create a plan, where they will not be  in control of the situation and will be forced to react to YOU. The security team has a huge advantage against any antagonist; an actual team that can execute a coordinated and controlled response against an often solo player. As long as the solo antagonist keeps the team from grouping up and making a plan, they have a fighting chance. 
     

     

    This is going above and beyond for a typical security main, however don't feel too bad that you got killed by the vampires, because the taser is very hit-or-miss, mostly because of the instant stun and long buffer time between shots. Lots of times there are incidents where security is super competent because they manage to hit all their taser shots, and others where they could be doing everything correctly and be a dream team but not land a single shot. And anyways, if they were vampires like you said, they could rejuvenate from the stun with no blood cost and only a cooldown, so if you hit it chances are the outcome would be the same. 

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  7. 2 hours ago, necaladun said:

    Hi there,

    While the specific "zoop zoop bro" was collectively said twice, it's the bunch of other strange nonsense you were told to stop. This is really the crux of it - if an admin tells you to stop doing something, you stop immediately. Not get in a few more "bro's" and other nonsense.

    Hello, sorry for the late response, like I had said beforehand(and an error on my end), I didn't know that the admin was referring to me specifically - at the time, however, I did respond by pinging the other user and saying it was because they bewitched me, but the punchline of this joke was supposed to be that the admin was not referring to me, however I still take the blame(hilarious, i know). The second time they said to stop, me and the other user knew that it was directed at the both of us, so we did stop.

    However, the ban reason seems to suggest that the things that were being posted had something inherently wrong with them, and I'm not sure what that is. But yes, I'm well aware that if you are told to stop by an admin, you stop, but because of the circumstances and because of the grey area that we were in (didn't explicitly break discord server rules nor paradise server rules..) we had to be told to stop twice.

  8. Admin(s) Key: @Spacemanspark
    Your ckey (Byond username): Fursame
    Your Discord name (if applicable): lieutenantwiseguy#4685

    Date(s) of incident (GMT preferred): 10 / 17 / 19

    Nature of complaint: Feedback, clarification required, other

    Links to all relevant ban appeals for any bans related to this complaint: 

     


    Brief description (tl;dr here. Just the critical elements):
    Request for a discussion regarding the ban with the banning admin.


    Full description of events:

    I don't agree with the ban reason, why I don't is stated in the linked ban appeal. However, I'll just go off of spark's reply here instead. 
     

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    lieutenantwiseguyYesterday at 5:27 PM
    zoop zoop haha thanks for the kidn gold shahah azoop zoop haha name checks out OP is gay haha zoop zoop lol lmao zoop zoop zoop zoop zoop zoop zoopmzoop zozpo zopozoz
     
    HiYesterday at 5:28 PM
    zoop zoop haha thanks for the kidn gold shahah azoop zoop haha name checks out OP is gay haha zoop zoop lol lmao zoop zoop zoop zoop zoop zoop zoopmzoop zozpo zopozoz

    Fox McCloudYesterday at 5:29 PM
    Can you not.
    We have rules ya know
    follow em

     
    lieutenantwiseguyYesterday at 5:29 PM
    sorry nchief iwas tempted by this witch @Hi
     
    HiYesterday at 5:30 PM
    bro why!!!!!!!!
     
    lieutenantwiseguyYesterday at 5:30 PM
    BRO!!21111
     
    HiYesterday at 5:30 PM
    This betryl!
     
    lieutenantwiseguyYesterday at 5:30 PM
    sorry bro
    had to do it bro u know i dont wanna go back bro
     
    Fox McCloudYesterday at 5:30 PM
    Stop.

    Both you and the other player were spamming the discord with long phrases that more or less just said 'zoop zoop bro' and a bunch of other strange nonsense. Another admin told you to stop, you both didn't... and so you were both banned. You've been talked to about your behavior, and there aren't any excuses. 

     

    Stop means stop. If you can't understand that, you aren't welcome here. Appeal declined. 

     

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    Both you and the other player were spamming the discord with long phrases that more or less just said 'zoop zoop bro' and a bunch of other strange nonsense. 

    We, as far as I can remember, collectively said that twice, as shown in the log. I initially said it in response to something either related to reddit, mocking reddit or someone saying something like "thanks for the kind gold" or other buzzwords on reddit. Not exactly spamming, in my opinion. in addition, it's maybe two lines long at best, if you're using a mobile. As well, we only added bro to the end or in the middle of sentences. I don't understand how that is worthy of a warning, much less a ban. As I said in the ban appeal, I know and understand how odd me and the other user may look to an observer but we were merely joking around was all.
     

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    Another admin told you to stop, you both didn't... and so you were both banned. You've been talked to about your behavior, and there aren't any excuses. 

    The initial time, as I said in the ban appeal, I thought it was something that the other user had done since I had double checked the rules for the discord server and didn't see any rules we might've been breaking (aside from maybe the 'stay on topic' bit but we only deviated from a discussion about medical or something for a few posts), however we DID stop the second time he said to, as we both realized he was addressing us. I also don't know what you mean by the last part, as I have never been warned on discord for something even remotely similar to this as far as I can recall.

    This complaint isn't in place to try to get me unbanned (a third chance as the guide would say), but to get more insight from staff - mainly the banning admin - on what I did was wrong, if it even was, because right now I'm getting pretty minimal communication regarding the whole ordeal (had to even message another administrator that wasn't involved at all just to get the ban reason!).

  9. Bang, bump..

    The sound of more useless junk bumbling around in the disposals pipes. It doesn't really bother me anymore, just more white noise to add to the rest. Walking down the narrow, dimly lit, rusting maintenance shaft, I find two pairs of chairs, a box of cigarettes and a box of matches on one of them. "Must've been one of the construction workers," I mumble quietly, walking towards the chairs. They're facing out to a window, and as I approach it, displays the vacuum of space surrounding and engulfing the Cyberaid, illuminated by the lights of various stars. I pull a chair out as I approach it, sitting down on it. I grab and throw away both boxes of cigarettes and matches from the other chair - you'd be a fool to put anything in your mouth that you find in a maintenance tunnel. I whipped out my PDA, checking the messages tab. Nothing, as usual. Not like they'd get an interesting story out of an assistant. I double check the crew manifest, wanting to see if any crew have transferred to the Cyberaid. Captain, Head of Staff, Security, Science, Engineering.. All filled with people I don't know nor people that I really care about.

    Thump! Thump! The sound of jackboots. Standard issue for security personnel - for what reason, I don't know. Probably because some corporate jackass thought a pair of boots would be intimidating. I know a security officer in maintenance isn't good news. Some trouble-maker has run into a shaft, looking to avoid the law. I mean, I did, and still am, but I'm sure they've forgotten about me by now. It's a bother, because when the new security transfers see me, they always ask the same questions - "Why are you in here?", "Who authorized you to enter the maintenance shafts?", "Where is your ID?", the likes.. I quickly glanced about. No easy way to get out of this hallway, no conveniently placed lockers or tables.. Shit. I turned to the sound of the jackboots, which was the other end of the hallway. Was slowly getting louder by the second, until I saw the bright, almost neon coloured red jumpsuit pop out from the corner, flashlight in hand. 

    Took me a bit to get adjusted to the bright light of the flashlight, or should I say "seclite".. Corporate and their nicknames.. When my eyes got used to the light, I could get a better look at the officer. Brown hair, wrapped into a bun. A beret, an armour vest with one set of plating, a security jump-skirt, with her rank on the right shoulder & collar, bags under her eyes and a cigarette in her mouth. I barely glanced at the ID, to make sure they weren't some shmuck in an officer getup. "Who are you?" She said, with a certain grit in her voice. "Nick Pierce, ma'am." I replied, sighing, turning my head to look out back into the window. "You do understand that there is a changeling running about the shafts, right?" She hissed, sounding a bit annoyed. "Well, ma'am, how do I know you're not the changeling?" I chuckled.

    She stared at me for a moment, in silence - her lack of a reply caught my attention, so I turned to her, to see this mix of fear and anger on her face. It scared me a bit, seeing this initially gruff, grizzled looking security officer now before me, looking like a guilty child. "Looks like we got a smartass, huh.." She finally retorted. I shrugged, turning back to the window without saying anything. I hear the jackboots come closer, as well, as her flashlight being shut off, and shoved into what I think is a pouch or a pocket. I turn around to see her behind me, staring out the window as well. Weird. I turn back to face the window, and after a few awkward seconds of silence, I try to occupy myself. I lay my satchel in my lap, opening it up, and taking out a notebook. I close the satchel up, putting it by my side, and take the pen out of my PDA, opening up my notebook on a new, blank page, to detail my day so far. 

    "Got onto shift station today. Said hi to captain. Didn't respond. Typical. Went to maintenance airlock, explored shafts. Doodle in book (tis this one). Watch stars. Creepy Weird Stupid  Odd officer talks to me and is now watching stars with me. Don't know what to do."

    Surprisingly enough, the officer doesn't mind the notebook, nor the fact I'm slandering her in it. I turn to her, and she has this dull, blank look on her face as she stares out into the window. I wave my hand infront of her face. No physical response. "Fuck, man, you turn into a statue over a little joke?" I questioned, quite obviously visibly disturbed by the immediate change in personality by the officer. I watch as her cigarette just drops from her agape jaw. Ooooooh shit. That's not good. "I think, I'm, ah, gonna be going now.." I said, nervously, closing my notebook and hurriedly shoving it in my satchel, raising my body just a bit off the chair before she grabs my shoulder. "Hey, man, what the hell?" I turn around to see her staring at me with the same dull, blank expression. She started gripping onto my shoulder slowly, and the pain started to seep in. She was grabbing it so hard, I felt as if my scapula was going to shatter! "Ahh, fuck!" I moaned, before feeling a sharp sting in my neck. Oh shit. She was going to cut my throat. I tried to elbow her in the stomach, but to no avail, as she evidently had abs of steel. I quickly came to the conclusion that this was not a human before me. 

    The next course of action was to take whatever that was in my neck, OUT, of my neck. I grabbed the foreign object stabbed into my neck, to feel the warmth of flesh. I slowly turned my head to look at it, partly because of my unwillingness to know what it was, and partly because of the massive pain in both my shoulder and neck. Once my head rotated, I saw a massive tube-like tissue formed from the officer's "tongue", into my neck. Immediately afterwards, I felt a sucking sensation in my neck, as if the cells forming the blood and muscles in my neck were slowly being escorted out of my body. I felt immensely weak, and slouched back in my chair. I went to cry for help over my headset, but she was quicker, and slapped it out of my hand once she saw me grab it, letting it skid over the dusty plating. "Mmmnhh.." I could only utter, as all the energy in my body to do, well, ANYTHING, was sucked out by this vile creature. "Tis the fate of a maintenance dweller", she said, all innocent like, before letting go of me, letting me fall off the chair, and with the last moments of consciousness I had, I saw her face, as she mugged me of my clothing & belongings, slowly morph into mine.

     

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  10. 2 hours ago, Nukechicken said:

    Was thinking that maybe people with less than 4 hours playtime get an extra flavor text like "they look unfamiliar" or "they don't look like they're from here" so experienced players don't get too angry when some random person who doesn't know the rules murderbones them, grey tide style, and so mentors may have a higher priority on certain players that may not even know the controls

    Think it should be longer than 4 hours, since at least for me, it took a good day to get down the controls, forget anything else

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