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    Admin Note Policy and Transparency

    in Suggestions

    Posted

     

    Just now, Coul said:

    Henk's point is, the whole point of having your own record of your own notes is for your own benefit, You can use it to reflect on your own behaviour and avoid making the same mistakes you've made prior and if you do manage to make the same mistakes then an admin can bring that up fairly and can even double down on the fact that they are now aware of their notes. The concerns about people screaming about hidden notes is strange in my opinion, If you warned them you should give them a note as well and if you give them a hidden note after warning them that just goes against the whole point of the note and warning, and you can still apply hidden notes for usage in cases of RDMing or tiding or just suspicious players, they'll have no clue as long as you don't bwoink or tell them. I'm not sure how the player would be aware a hidden note would be written on them unless the admin themself came out and told them directly. If you really worry about people requesting their hidden notes to be revealed then you can simply make a rule about prior notes being unrequestable. I see this as a win for everyone, admins can continue to make hidden notes and players can now keep track of the things they've been warned for or have gotten in trouble for and improve their character. Sure it might cause drama short term but it'll improve the server environment long term and for the players that actually care about the server and want to be a net positive they certainly will take their notes into account and take admin feedback very seriously and act upon it and their notes will just be a tool to help them. Denying players the ability to record admin feedback and improve upon it feels counter intuitive when the one of the points of appealing on the forum is ensuring the players learned from their mistakes before returning to the server, allowing players to see their notes helps support that exact same view. You will help them learn from their mistake by giving them a record of it, and to the point of worrying people will try to appeal their notes. I see nothing wrong with this, why would you want players to correct their incorrect notes if the appeal had merit?  Admins are humans as well and sometimes things on the surface aren't as they appear. And if it doesn't have merit then there was no harm in clarifying why to the player. I understand adminning is a volunteer job and that you use up your own time to do it but I personally don't think it's a lot to hear someone out if they truly believe that a note given to them was unreasonable then I feel like they should be heard out as notes have weight on the actions of admins.

     

    We all just want to play a silly wacky space simulator with a community of close-knit friends, Nobody wants to worry about a note they had from a long time ago that they might not even remember biting themselves in the back when they make a mistake. Giving players a record of their notes allows them a little bit of breathing room when they know what they've done wrong and evaluated themselves.

    I can't read that you need to use paragraph spacing.

    Admin Note Policy and Transparency

    in Suggestions

    Posted

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    One round I could do X, even ahelped it. Next round I do X and get perma banned. Yes I'm going to complain and argue. But now I can't access direct proof since the notes are hidden. 

    We don't note people when we give them permission to do something for a round, there would be no proof in your notes.

    Admin Note Policy and Transparency

    in Suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Ty Omaha

    Someone gets warned
    Admin makes invisible note
    Person goes to check notes
    Person sees note is not there
    Person demands to see the invisible note
    Person gets declined to see invisible note
    Person goes around saying "so and so is talking smack about me and I can't even defend myself because it's invisible!" 

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    Admin Note Policy and Transparency

    in Suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Ty Omaha

    Intentions or not, that's a big false accusation. The context of the quote takes place in a conversation, which implies direct PMs with an administrator.  It doesn't visualize what you wanted to; as you said. Thank you for clarifying though.

    It is not a comment you have to spend minutes "carefully crafting". It is not that hard to not misrepresent something to that degree. If you misconstruct a point, and your point is taken in the misconstructed way, it is entirely your own fault. People cannot read into your mind to see what you really meant, only what you portrayed. You portrayed your real point poorly, and it came across as a different point entirely. The portrayed point in this case is completely false and is equal to a lie, minus the intent. At the end of the day, the portrayed point, not the real point in your head, was responded to.

    Exaggeration in arguments is a fallacy (flaw). You shouldn't include these when you are having a serious discussion. It discredits you and your proposition.

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    A very unpopular suggestion (But needed)

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    1 hour ago, davidchan said:

    The biggest complaint against security is they use their power to abuse people they don't like or find annoying.

    This mainly comes from people who skirt around space law and are a general nuisance towards security, so if they don't want security being a nuisance back then don't dish what you can't take.

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    Create A Banner! (READ)

    in Art Competition

    Posted · Edited by Ty Omaha

    This is a yearly contest that allows you to submit art to be displayed as a banner! 

    My submission won!

    • Congratulations! It will be displayed as our Discord banner for a year
    • You may not re-use it in future contests
    • You will get a contest-winner role on Discord for the year with a cool color!

    My submission didn't win : (

    • That's okay, you can try again next year! Submissions that didn't win may be re-submitted.

    General Rules

    • If a winning submission is found to be inappropriate, the next appropriate submission in line will be chosen.
    • In the event of a tie, each submission that tied will be assigned to a number. A computerized dice roll with only those numbers will determine the winner. 

    Formatting

    • Upload an image that’s at least 960x540 pixels in a 16:9 aspect ratio. Have a 1920x1080 image handy? Upload that and we’ll automatically resize it for you.
    • Keep the top 48px of the image fairly simple and free of any busy imagery. This way the title of the server will be easy to read.

    Submissions

    • Reply to the forum topic/thread in this section named "YEAR - SUBMISSIONS" with your submission(s)!
    • Submissions can be silly (such as stick figures), high quality, or just something you whipped up one night!
    • Submissions are limited to 2 per person
    • Submissions must be appropriate and follow all server rules

    Voting

    • On the last Saturday of every year (roughly, due to holidays etc), submitted submissions will be congregated into a single forum topic titled "YEAR - VOTING". Each submission will be numbered. There will be a poll at the topic asking you to vote for which number. 
    • You may only vote for 1 submission
    • You may change your vote, simply return back from the results page and select a new number then submit.
    • Voting will be open for 7 days.
    • You may vote for your own image if you want
    • The submission with the most number of votes wins
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    Admin Complaint: Abydos2

    in Resolved

    Posted · Edited by Ty Omaha

    I will not be handling this, but I oversaw the response to the appeal and gave a lot of guidance on it. So if your concern is the appeal then this is directed at myself.

    I agree with your point of how the warning wasn't clear, and have already talked to Abydos about that. We did acknowledge that in the appeal itself. He will be more clear in future matters.

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    "I broke the rules, I'm sorry, I'll drop the entire subject I only started it because of these reasons"

    Here is the message I think you're talking about:

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    5 minutes later you said this, rationalizing how "constant belittling isn't uncalled for". This resulted in the ban.

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    If someone is DMing you in a hostile manner, report it and we will look into it.

    Originally I was going to have him accept your appeal, but this was the deciding factor:

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    As they are somewhat infamous for their poor attitude, I figured that others who knew him for it would get a chuckle out of it.

    I do not view this as a fact like you claim, facts are supported by hard evidence. There was no player-wide poll that asked whether or not they thought the person had a poor attitude. Even if there was, two wrongs don't make a right. Like you quoted in Rule 4; OOC harassment of others is not allowed regardless of who the victim is. Which is why we said to make a player complaint. Saying "X player is infamous for their poor attitude" I do view as a sly remark, and similar to the behaviour with the last comment on Discord. So this is where we will have to disagree and wait for a head judgement. 

    I encourage you to make a player complaint if you feel you the actions taken by this player are severe enough to the point we have reached now.

    SEC Instructor Jobs, A Remedy to Newsec

    in Suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Ty Omaha

    The name is incorrect and should be based on logic rather than a number which is almost 50/50. I don't care about the look, the hat reminds me of a state trooper hat.

    New security officers are going to want to get yelled at 24/7? No
    Drill Instructors are going to make them to drills? No
    Do Drill Instructors play an active role on the field? No

    The Security department is not a paramilitary organization.

     

    edit: The poll is also about the outfit, not the name.

    SEC Instructor Jobs, A Remedy to Newsec

    in Suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Ty Omaha

    Drill Instructor is completely wrong and this should not have the title of that, @Furasian 

    1. Drill Instructors are military (or in the academy, not in the field)
    2. They're not making the sec officers do drills, which is what the whole point of a drill instructor does.
    3. Drill Instructors don't "drill instruct" in an active situation
    4. Field Training Officer is literally what the actual role of someone who does this is
    5. Security is not a military
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