Abydos
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I'd like to say that while I was part of that round, I had absolutely nothing to do with the things involving the bioscan. I was playing a civilian who had gotten a rod of asclepius and spent around the whole round assisting medical during terror spiders. Though I was also a bad effect for the crew, cause whenever terror spiders came to medical... I ended up healing them. That's all I did for the entire round.. chill around medical and run if Terrors show up.
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1) The clown is the clown, it's their job to be funny, annoying or the like.. to the benefit or hinder of the crew within reason. What the clown did was perfectly fine within their job. You assaulted them. And was punished for it by Space law. You physically attacked someone, while they only disarmed and made no hostile actions back. That's why you got a jail sentence, they got a warning.
2) You threatened the Clown. That's okay.. you then immediately started trying to beat them to death again on the escape shuttle. You literally placed them into crit.. and I was watching the entire thing, you were trying to kill them.. the Clown was disarming you and moving away from you. You chased after them. It was clear they did not consent to this so called "fight" of yours.
3) It is not roleplay or sane in any world, where someone gets mad at a coworker, assaults them, blames them for assault and getting arrested, and starts trying to beat them to death infront of everyone else. That's insane and we don't permit insane characters.
We wish you all the luck at your new server.
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Yes, I was the admin who conducted the trade. I'll say this on the matter.. trades are entirely doable. It depends upon your objectives... if you have to kill someone, and you'd like another objective, we may give it to you. A trade is unlikely as it'd make no sense on why we'd give you a hijack/nukie item if you have to steal something or kill 1 person.
If you have hijack however, trades are entirely doable and depends on the context. You want CQC? We can arrange it. You want his grace? We can arrange it. It will cost most, if not, all your TC as you are effectively getting an item, or role that can literally break or make a round. Some things however, we will not trade or offer such as super antag roles or very powerful items. If the crew have zero chance against you (Such as an ancient one) or the item (Such as instakill rifle), then please don't ask for it.6 hours ago, Maxfromsweden said:Watching this video, I'm a bit concerned. You kill 13 people which to me seems extremely excessive. Even more concerning is the admin urging you on. Personally, a killing spree before hijacking is what I would call the opposite of creative, since murdering a lot of people is usually the first thing that comes to mind when people think "traitor".
It's up to the hijacker. Hijack allows them to do anything they want. If they want to bomb the bridge, they may. If they want to expose the bar to space and kill everyone in it, they may. If they just want to chill in one room until the shuttle is called, they may. The only rules they aren't allowed to break are ERP and racism rules, those still apply.
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Escaping perma requires literally getting out of perma. Merely breaking through the window into the little lobby like area in perma, still counts as perma as they have no way of escaping through the double doors. And Security can more than easily deal with any prisoner in that area, by use of shooting through the doors (Disablers) or flashbang.
Now if they had gotten further, to say the courtroom using an e-mag and then ran into maints.. that is escaping perma. Likewise if they did it through the main brig area, by e-magging the door, then the doors infront of the brig. It's also the same if another traitor builds an escape tunnel from maints to perma, or through the windows and giving them space suits. Merely breaking the window (Which they often hurt themselves doing and can easily crit themselves) and entering the little area isn't escaping perma.
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1 hour ago, Kyet said:
Is it even possible to revive suicided people?
I'd rather it was just impossible, instead of it being possible but having SOP not to do it.It is possible by removing the brain of the suicided person, placing them into a new body and then SR/Clone/Defib that body.
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And those people are dealt with when seen / noticed / reported to the staff. An IPC named Beep? Sure. A human named Beep, running around wearing cyborg stuff, saying beep all the time? No.
QuoteHaving an “insane” character does not change anything. If it’s not permissible normally, saying you are “insane” does not make for justification. Employees should be reasonably able to pass a psych eval. Additionally, acting violent or “lolrandom” because you are “insane” is an incredibly unrealistic and frankly offensive view of mental health.
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I was the admin who informed you of the name rules. Frankly, I still do not see why it should be allowed or accepted as
1) You are joining as a Human, with the name BEEP in all caps.
2) You put on cardboard cyborg stuff
3) You run around the station, doing nothing but saying "Beep" everytime someone talks to you and constantly breaking into robotics.QuoteRegarding Roleplaying:
Paradise Station is a Medium Roleplaying Server. This means that we do not expect players to completely and absolutely immerse themselves in the universe of the game. However, we still expect players to act in-character at all times, in a manner befitting the overall scenario: that of working aboard a high-tech research space station owned by a Galactic MegaCorp with dubious moral standards.
Administrators may ask you to change your behavior if it is seen by the Server Staff as damaging the IC atmosphere of the server. Examples include, but are not limited to: references to memes or real life events, full reference characters (such as a Diona named Groot who says nothing but "I am Groot"), or an excessive amount of unserious, out-of-universe behavior in an IC context (with the obvious exception of the Clown and Mime).Regarding Non-Serious and/or Improper character names:
Your character is an employee of a powerful corporation serving on a cutting edge space station. Names should be context appropriate and support appropriate role-play. The clown will have considerably more freedom of "meme" naming then the captain. Failing to adhere to these standards will result to either IC or OOC consequences (including changing the name) depending on play history, severity, subjective quality of role play (with a preference on "medium") and OOC factors.
If you think a name should be allowed that an admins thinks of otherwise, this can be sent for review. However, until the review is finalized, the decision of the admin at the time remains.
Intent: RP is what makes SS13 more than just a game of clicking people until they go horizontal. The roleplay standards of paradise are what makes it the place it is, beyond the code and the map.
The original “Medium RP” intent was devised upon creation, as being a middle ground between the “HRP” of Bay12 and the “LRP” of Goon. The roleplay should be taken seriously, but not overly so, nor should you be elitist with your roleplay.
You are expected to roleplay within the universe the lore has established. You’re playing as someone who has either been hired by NT, or permitted to visit one of their more advanced research facilities. We don’t expect you to know every detail of the lore - especially as it’s subject to change. Your character should be one who can conceivably exist within the setting. NT would not hire someone who never does their job properly, or is unable to pass a job interview.
The rules around names have changed over time. Right now the standard is that having unique names is highly encouraged. We want people to make their own characters, not just copy-paste someone from other media. However, being inspired by other media (Especially sci-fi) is quite understandable and enjoyable, but the character should be a unique personality, not just a character from another media “in space”. IRL figures (Barrack Obama, Betty White, etc) are not to be used at all.Names should be appropriate for the species. A human being named "Bob Smith" is fine. A diona being named "Flight of A Thousand Flowers" is fine. A character with a name from another species should have a backstory to explain this.
Your name represents the name NT hired you under. This means you should not have titles like "Doctor", and should likely include a last name, not just a description like "Grunt".
Especially “memey” names, or IRL references, can very much break immersion.
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1 hour ago, Warriorstar said:
Instead of being a maint area, I want to put two hardsuit closets in here, locked by the QM's access.
I honestly do not see why Cargo needs hardsuits.
Security needs hardsuits incase antags or people they are chasing have gone to space.
Medical needs it, incase a breach happens or someone they need to grab is dead within space.
Engineering is self-obvious.
Why would cargo need two hardsuits? To grab crates in space? Lavaland doesn't use hardsuits, they use soft-suits that are designed for it. Furthermore, if cargo does need hardsuits, any miner with a lot of points can buy a new one from the vendor.
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I'd also like to point out a few things I have noticed with the others in Staff chat.
What's the purpose of this room? It's so far an empty room that has no rhyme or purpose. Sticks out like a sore thumb.
Adding onto AA's point about the warehouse, this thing also bugs me here. You got 3 reinforced walls where the mining ship docks.. but every other wall is normal. If it's to stop cargo from breaking into the mining shuttle, it's rather pointless if they can just cut away one wall to the side, remove the window and then hack in. Or just remove the windows. More steps? Yes. But still doable.
Why does Cargo need a delivery chute? Barely anyone uses the chutes other than cargo, so unless you plan on giving every department a room full of wrapping paper + label, it's a waste of space. Cargo is the one who uses it to send crates out. Do they plan on sending it to themselves?
This feels entirely large for absolutely no reason. I've never seen cargo needing more than what they've already got.. it's not like they ever get more than 3-4 people waiting in the area. Why does this need to be so large? It's needlessly so.
The same applies here, mining starting area is NEVER used since miners are always down at lavaland, got a mining vendor down there, and only really come up to give resources or grab food. Enlarging it is the same as I stated, needlessly so.
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7 hours ago, romeo247 said:
receiving the job ban by indirectly asking an engineer who was at the mining station to convert me
I'd like to point out, that this right here is a lie as proven by the logs. You didn't "indirectly" ask them, you straight up asked them and told them to do it.
Edit / additional information: You also stated in your own appeal, you did ask for him to convert you.
QuoteI broke rule number 2 by not playing up to role-playing standards on paradise by asking someone to convert me
Spoiler[2020-02-17T07:37:05] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (68,38,5): i sure would love somone to cult me
[2020-02-17T07:37:20] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (76,37,5): sure would love someone cult me
[2020-02-17T07:37:33] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (77,38,5): great
[2020-02-17T07:37:38] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (81,38,5): need two people
[2020-02-17T07:37:47] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (93,40,5): need two people for ritual
[2020-02-17T07:37:57] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (92,41,5): want me to build a base hide the rune
[2020-02-17T07:39:07] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,45,5): hey
[2020-02-17T07:39:14] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,44,5): its fine
[2020-02-17T07:39:35] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,46,5): i build base over this to be fair
[2020-02-17T07:39:52] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,46,5): so people wont find out
[2020-02-17T07:40:13] SAY: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,46,5): ok im building a base now
[2020-02-17T07:43:26] LOOC: Drizzle (123,46,5): Is it even allowed to willingly join the cult?
[2020-02-17T07:43:34] LOOC: Cassian Kirkson (124,45,5): hell if I know
[2020-02-17T07:43:41] LOOC: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,45,5): i think it is perhaps
[2020-02-17T07:43:49] LOOC: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,45,5): i mean i can say you tie me up
[2020-02-17T07:45:32] LOOC: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,45,5): do yall have rune of enlightment
2020-02-17T07:45:05] ADMIN: Adminhelp: Drizzl: There is a guy who just sort of willingly wants to join the cult. Will we be in trouble if we convert him? - heard by 4 non-AFK admins.
[2020-02-17T07:45:31] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2->Drizzle: Did he just come up to you guys and say he wants to join?[2020-02-17T07:46:21] ADMIN: PM: Drizzle->Abydos2: I'm not sure. We were making our way to the Lavaland when one of acolytes, Cassian Kirkson, told us a miner, Cy Moore, wants to join.
[2020-02-17T07:47:28] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2->Romeo247/(Cy Moore): Hi there, so why are you deliberately attempting to get yourself culted?
[2020-02-17T07:47:45] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->Abydos2: so i can play antag role if thats ok
[2020-02-17T07:48:05] LOOC: Drizzle (123,46,5): Well, to be honest, it's basically admins right now. I'm not converting you without their approval.
[2020-02-17T07:48:21] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2->Romeo247/(Cy Moore): No, instead, you just earned yourself a ban from all antag roles for deliberately attempting to get yourself culted, running up to cultists and going "Sure would be great if someone cult'd me" making yourself a target.
[2020-02-17T07:48:46] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->Abydos2: an ban that can be a part of the role play
[2020-02-17T07:49:47] ADMIN: Abydos2 perma-banned Romeo247/(Cy Moore) from Syndicate
[2020-02-17T07:55:33] DEADCHAT: Romeo247/(Cy Moore) (123,48,5): wow i was job ban for antag baiting
[2020-02-17T07:56:32] ADMIN: PM: BryanR->Romeo247/(Cy Moore): You can also try your luck in upping your ban to a server one if you're going to salt about it in dead chat.
[2020-02-17T07:56:51] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->BryanR: well can i talk about it to you
[2020-02-17T07:57:32] ADMIN: PM: BryanR->Romeo247/(Cy Moore):If you want to discuss it, you need to submit an appeal on the forums to discuss it with the administrator who banned you. I'm not the one who'll be handling it so I can only answer a few questions if you have them.
[2020-02-17T07:58:57] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->BryanR: ok i will submit an appeal on the forums but i gotta be honest job ban for that is lil too much the cult could of got to me enventually if i wanted them to
[2020-02-17T07:59:44] ADMIN: PM: BryanR->Romeo247/(Cy Moore): The point is you shouldn't be handing yourself over to the cult. Its a shitty thing to do to the rest of the players and it ruins the fun of the game mode.
[2020-02-17T08:03:28] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->BryanR: but thats kind of the point of the game mode is to kidnap players and then other players kidnap them and also could be use as rolepay as well like some people may actually be willing to join and the guy already at mining outpost if wanted he could of got me and if i told on them it could make it so they could quicky lose
[2020-02-17T08:05:03] ADMIN: PM: BryanR->Romeo247/(Cy Moore): Yeah the point is the fact that you get kidnapped not that you hand yourself over to the cultists. If it happens it happens, if it doesn't, it doesn't. We've never allowed roleplay to willingly join because nobody in their right mind would willingly join a cult that summons an evil god that slaughters everyone, cultists included.
[2020-02-17T08:05:56] ADMIN: PM: BryanR->Romeo247/(Cy Moore):Also it would just make it way too easy for the cultists to swell their numbers and win if everyone could roleplay willingly joining the cult.
[2020-02-17T08:06:16] ADMIN: PM: BryanR->Romeo247/(Cy Moore):And it would ruin the game mode where there should be an actual struggle for the cultists to achieve their goal and the station to stop them.
2020-02-17T08:11:35] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247->BryanR/(Alyssia Roche): the people could not know that they are joining a cult like this one time i was roleplaying and the chaplain ask me to join his relgion and a accecpted and it was actually a spell or something that put me under mind control for a few minutes and he told me to steal from the captain jetpackor whatever and that was ok . there could be ways for people to join with out them knowing the true purpose of the cult .
You also appealed it on the very same day you received it, and was informed to play longer on the server. You played nothing for 2 days, to which you made a second appeal. You informed not playing isn't going to get you unbanned, so you played for a total of 6 days you played nothing between 17th to the 20th of feb, you played on the 20th, 21th, 22nd, then dropped. You then made a third appeal on the 5th of March, and was told that sitting and doing nothing isn't going to show us why you should get unbanned. You then played from the 5th of March to the 15th of March, a total of 10 days.. then again dropped. Then you come out of nowhere on the 1st of July, 4 months after this fact and immediately want to play syndicate again when no one has seen you play.
This just reinforces the idea of you just wanting to play antag and the idea of you only playing a few rounds, not do anything and then make an appeal.
7 hours ago, romeo247 said:Claiming that 6 hours of game play time with not enough for a two week period .
You played a total of 6 hours for 3 days straight, then stopped. You basically played 3 rounds a day, then stopped for 12 days. You then played on average, 3 hours a day.. which is a single round or a round and a half for 9 days, then stopped for 4 months. About 121 days since the last time you played.
7 hours ago, romeo247 said:Claiming that I only proving that I play on this server for antagonist or fish for antagonist which is simply not true
7 hours ago, romeo247 said:thinks that my only reason for playing is to be antagonist which is not true.
Spoiler[2020-02-17T07:47:45] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->Abydos2: so i can play antag role if thats ok
[2020-02-17T07:58:57] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->BryanR: ok i will submit an appeal on the forums but i gotta be honest job ban for that is lil too much the cult could of got to me enventually if i wanted them to
[2020-02-17T08:03:28] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247/(Cy Moore)->BryanR: but thats kind of the point of the game mode is to kidnap players and then other players kidnap them and also could be use as rolepay as well like some people may actually be willing to join and the guy already at mining outpost if wanted he could of got me and if i told on them it could make it so they could quicky lose
2020-02-17T08:11:35] ADMIN: PM: Romeo247->BryanR/(Alyssia Roche): the people could not know that they are joining a cult like this one time i was roleplaying and the chaplain ask me to join his relgion and a accecpted and it was actually a spell or something that put me under mind control for a few minutes and he told me to steal from the captain jetpackor whatever and that was ok . there could be ways for people to join with out them knowing the true purpose of the cult .
If I was sent a message asking how many hours, then I either didn't see it or had forgotten about it during other stuff which I apologies for. But we actually expect people to play the game if they want to receive an un-job ban.. not play for a few days, make an appeal, then play a few more days, stop playing entirely and then make another appeal.
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You've been noticed doing 3 things always as HoP or as any member of command:
1) You immediately rush Cargo, steal their toolbelt, acquire all tools and keep them on you.
2) You immediately rush medical, steal a medical belt and fill it full of medical gear. Medical scanner, autoburn, autobrute, epine bottle, hypospray, 5 salbuta pills, 5 mannitol pills, 3 mutadon pills and other things. You basically emptied a vendor for yourself.
3) You then went to cargo and started ordering foam shotguns.. as "Emergency bridge supplies".. and since foam does absolutely nothing on anyone, it was quite clear you were plan on filling them up with riot.
And you've done this across multiple rounds.
QuoteRegarding "Powergaming":
The Server Staff retain the right to ask you to tone down what is perceived as being excessive powergaming that causes noticeable disruption to the rest of the playerbase. Powergaming is readily defined as the prioritization of amassing mechanical advantages for yourself, to the detriment of the enjoyment of others or the creation of interesting RP situations, and is to be avoided in favor of methods that both encourage and promote the fun of all parties involved in interactions where such moderation is possible.
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You were asked to provide the phrase half a year ago by @TyOmaha
You didn't respond for a week. If you cannot find yourself able to read the rules to find a two worded phrase and rant about stuff not related to your appeal, then yes, finding another server should be suitable for you. Hope you find what you are looking for.
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Admin's version of events:
As the shuttle landed at the station, during a nuclear emergency round, you started screaming at another player demanding that you go boom with them. Said player had a syndicate mini-bomb that a nukie had dropped before he could set it off, you kept hounding the player screaming within your own words;
Quote[2020-04-27T04:40:09] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (166,124,1): (headset) 'TIME TO BOOM'
[2020-04-27T04:40:12] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (165,128,1): (headset) 'WHERE GO'
[2020-04-27T04:40:22] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (140,129,1): (headset) 'VOXXY WANT TO BOOM'
[2020-04-27T04:40:41] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (180,129,1): (headset) 'TORI'
[2020-04-27T04:40:48] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (182,129,1): (headset) 'VOXXY BOOM'
[2020-04-27T04:40:50] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (189,129,1): (headset) 'WHERE AT'
[2020-04-27T04:41:07] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (178,128,1): (headset) 'YAYA'
[2020-04-27T04:41:12] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (175,128,1): (headset) 'LET VOXXY BOOM'
[2020-04-27T04:41:30] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (181,118,1): 'BOOM'
[2020-04-27T04:41:35] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (182,118,1): 'YAYA'
[2020-04-27T04:41:39] SAY: Octus/(Tokorizo) (180,118,1): 'LES GO'
And just as the shuttle left, said player triggered the bomb in-between the area of roboticts and RnD, with another player standing near science, merely to kill each other.
Admin's reasoning for actions:
I'm going to copy and paste what I've informed the other player here;
QuoteThe rules are there to be followed by everyone, and to ensure that both the spirit of the rules, the spirit of the server and the overall gameplay is not effected by negative elements. An example of this would be a Civilian stepping off the arrival shuttle and is immediately culted by someone camping arrivals, or an antag releasing the engine when their objective was to steal the NAD as a "Distraction". The same rules apply to non-antags in the same way, much like a civilian dragging a welding tank to the front of the bridge and blowing it up, or a medical doctor killing someone because they hate them, to the bartender breaking into the armory to change his double barrel to a riot shotgun. It may be fun to them, for their enjoyment, but not fun for everyone else it effects.
The rules are there to ensure that things of theses nature do not happen, and to ensure that everyone is having the same experience, the same treatment and same enjoyment as each other. Admins enforce those rules and ensure they are followed, people are either warned and reminded of the rules or given a ban when the situation is very serious.Players do not get to decide when, where, how, what or why they should follow the rules. Two players may not decide "Rules be damned", throw them away and start killing each other merely because they "consented" to it. The rules state quite clearly that violence is never allowed until after the shuttle docks at CC, and if you plan on killing or harming anyone before such, admins must be informed and asked for permission. What if someone had walked into science, just as you threw that grenade and killed someone who had not consented? What if someone walked into science, after the fact and gets sucked into the hole in space you left there, and died? There are unknown factors that you must consider.. it could be fun to throw a grenade someplace, but how would it effect everyone else?
Before the round had ended, you effectively created a rather dangerous situation merely to kill each other, and threw every worry or caution to the wind, that ended up ultimately breaking the rules. You may not see a problem with your actions and view them as harmless, but it can and may be more damaging than you imagine. Anyone could of walked within that area, now deemed hazardous and died due to your actions. You would of effectively murdered someone who had no knowledge you had ever done theses actions, with no warning to point towards it, nor as you put it "consented" to you creating a sudden death-trap on the entrance of science. If players could consent to breaking the rules, there would be no rules and the server would be in chaos. There would be little point to admins if anyone on a whim may deem "I don't feel like following this rule and could be more fun for me if I don't". People cannot and really should not decide that rules do not apply to them and they can be broken whenever they deem so.I view the same thing applies here. You may not see an issue with your actions, but others ultimate will. You may not see an issue with disregarding the rules, but if you disregard the rules and influence other players to also disregard the rules.. then what is the point of the rules if you may break them whenever you deem so and not except admins to get involved? Rules are there for a reason, to be followed and enforced.. not there to be a convenience, only followed and enforced some of the time and broken whenever people deem it so.
Merely because an area is broken, or slightly damaged (Science was still very much standing) does not mean, other players may come along, look at the damage and decided that it's not damaged enough and add onto it. If you were an antag or a nukie, it'd make sense.. a random crewmember suddenly turning suicidal, influencing another crewmember to join him in some suicide pack with an explosive on the door-step of a department.. does not.
Acknowledgement of wrongdoing or disputing of:
I don't see any wrong doing on my part. I was perhaps a little aggressive in saying that I cannot discuss what admin actions I've taken with someone else to you and consent to that.
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34 minutes ago, RadiantFlash said:
I take issue with this, because a similar matter came up within the Server Discord a few days ago, between Abby, Spark, and I believe Kiyaka, over engineering being defunded including atmospherics techs, despite atmos having nothing to do with the reason it occurred.
I have no idea why I was named within this complaint, but to clarify this information right here;
During that round, the Engineering department was terrible. They had caused the engine to be released twice, nearly three times in this order:
1) An engineer had set all the SMES to full input and full output, meaning the engine SMES weren't getting enough power to power the emitters, coupled with a PA that was left on 0. This led to the engine going down to stage 1, all the power being sucked by the grid SMES and the emitters not firing. Engine was released.
An announcement was sent out regarding this.
2) They fixed this issue, but still left the PA on 0. Engine went back down to stage 1, no power, emitters stopped firing, engine is released. At the same time, Atmospheric was being noticed because they had removed all the equipment out of their area (deconstructed it) and drew a boat in wiring.
A second announcement was sent out, about the engine again and atmospheric. As both seemed to be unwilling to take the matter seriously, they were told that their accounts would be suspended (Only money) until issues were fixed.
3) They finally got the right engine, but the CE had left the PA on 2, when the Engine was at stage 3. I personally stepped in at this point and set the PA to 1. This was about the time, the CE and Engineer were asking for pay back. Given that the fault had to be fixed multiple times and an admin had to fix the problem themselves, they were informed that pay would not be given back and to continue working without pay.
The CE attempted to lead a strike, twice, regarding this and was fired by Central Command. Others acted in an OOC manner (Mainly on discord) as if I had personally murdered their characters, because "I had nothing to do with that situation, I was atmospherics / doing my own thing" when, if a huge matter is happening in Engineering, people should step up to the plate to fix the issue and not stand there, pointing fingers at one area of their department going "We got nothing to do with them, punish them, not us". The punishment (Money accounts suspended) was given to the whole engineering department.
As I had said on discord
QuoteEngineering was given a unique form of punishment instead of a standard one, having their pay docked, taken away for their failure at upholding standards. It didn't matter if Atmospherics had nothing to do with it, it didn't matter if the engineers just sitting in a box all day, had nothing to do with it. EVERYONE under Engineering was subjected to the same punishment, pay was docked and accounts suspended. You were not fired (Apart from CE, that was another matter), you were not killed, you were not ordered to be demoted, arrested or the like. You had your pay taken away.
They were not told they could not continue to play, nor were they taken out of the round. They had their pay docked for nearly releasing the engine three times and playing art gallery with their department.
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Regarding Non-Serious and/or Improper character names:
Your character is an employee of a powerful corporation serving on a cutting edge space station. Names should be context appropriate and support appropriate role-play. The clown will have considerably more freedom of "meme" naming then the captain. Failing to adhere to these standards will result to either IC or OOC consequences (including changing the name) depending on play history, severity, subjective quality of role play (with a preference on "medium") and OOC factors.
If you think a name should be allowed that an admins thinks of otherwise, this can be sent for review. However, until the review is finalized, the decision of the admin at the time remains.
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You were told by a Head of Staff, you needed a first and last name.
You instead picked "Rat Rat" while wearing a rat mask.
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No thanks, as it just ends up with the station in a brawl.
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Admin's version of events:
There was a blob that was currently eating away at the station, taking up much of the crew's attention. Multiple calls for help, weapons, calling ERT, ect over the radio for you to hear. You continued instead to build a rage cage, hired someone to fight at it, advertised it through an announcement and tried to get people to fight within it.. all while the crew were dying.
Central Command (And admins) do not enjoy rage cages AT ALL, for a multiple number of reasons;
1) They encourage people to constantly fight until someone dies, aka, encouraging players to commit murder
2) They often brawl off into the whole bar and end up with everyone fighting or killing
3) It floods admins with attack logs from people who shouldn't be fighting in the first place.
Central Command got involved and sent this message, as you built a rage cage during a very serious blob threat;
QuoteSo the bartender seems to have his priorities mixed up. There's a blob that the crew should all be attempting to fight to ensure the station is not eaten.. and he's more concerned with building a rage cage. Not only do we want that rage cage down, we'd appreciate it if he's fed feet first to the blob as fodder.
As you took the time to build and start advertising a rage cage during a serious threat, you can also deal with the threat. I didn't realize that the Blueshield had decided to throw you at them handcuffed, but I cannot fault them for taking the CC order rather seriously. To which you immediately ahelp'd.
Quote[2020-04-13T23:25:48] ADMIN: Adminhelp: Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale): So you guys ae genuinely gonna do this? just decide that a player should be killed with a centtcomm report? - heard by 2 non-AFK admins.
[2020-04-13T23:26:02] ADMIN: Adminhelp: Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale): I thought that paradise was above this shit - heard by 2 non-AFK admins.
[2020-04-13T23:26:27] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2->Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale): You built a rage cage, something that central command hates as it encourages people to kill one another. You also built it during a BLOB emergency, that could lead to the station getting nuked..
[2020-04-13T23:27:02] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2/->Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale): Why you'd build a rage cage that central command 100% hates, and even during a blob, is beyond us.
[2020-04-13T23:27:41] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2->Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale): Considering you've taken the time to ahelp, consider it an official warning now, do not build rage cages. Especially when a BLOB is currently EATING the station.
[2020-04-13T23:27:50] ADMIN: PM: Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale)->Abydos2: I had no intention of allowing people to die in it, I had no idea the blob was still active and it caused literally not a single problem
[2020-04-13T23:28:13] ADMIN: PM: Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale)->Abydos2: Well then, guess i know why i stopped playing on paradise, the admins are still as toxic as ever
I had decided to ignore that remark due to stress / anger on your part and continued on with making sure everything was going okay around the server. You then decided to send in another ahelp, this time expanding your definition of "toxic" to the whole staff. Calling the whole staff corrupt and not even being sorry for it.
Quote[2020-04-13T23:31:00] ADMIN: Adminhelp: Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale): Just baffled to be honest that the admins here ae that corrupt still to just straight tell other people to remove others from the round - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.
[2020-04-13T23:31:17] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2->Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale): With that, you have just earned a ban.
[2020-04-13T23:31:25] ADMIN: PM: Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale)->Abydos2: o7
[2020-04-13T23:31:33] LOOC: Linukas/(Krazk Shadowscale) (136,142,1): o7 gettign banned
So yes, I stand by the ban and believe that Paradise is better off without you, if you decide to call all staff members toxic and corrupt because you were punished IC.
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Bar that @Octus created. We moved the slot machines and added the stools to complete the look.
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5 minutes ago, Elllipsis said:
You weren't there in the situation, doesn't know anything in the past conversations/bans. You're merely jumping ship and trying to take control of it.
Quote[2020-03-25T21:51:33] ADMIN: PM: Abydos2->Purified Golden Wraith: You could say you sense it, or try to convince the cultist to reveal himself. Up to you how you play it out, as the cult is being rather... you know... non-existing at the moment.
[2020-03-25T21:51:48] ADMIN: PM: Purified Golden Wraith->Abydos2: I noticed, anyway thanks man.
[2020-03-25T21:52:05] ADMIN: Abydos2 checked antagonists
[2020-03-25T21:53:18] ADMIN: Abydos2 modified Purified Golden Wraith's desc to A warm radiating bladed shell contraption piloted by a purified spirit
[2020-03-25T21:54:37] ADMIN: Adminhelp: Syndicate Comms Agent: when you get the time, one of the Syndie bio wepons peoples is trying to "break out" of the base and leave with full gear and a balloon - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.
Admin complaint VS marginalorb
in Resolved
Posted · Edited by Abydos
[2021-01-14T04:19:21] SAY: Phillip Orrbe (41,113,1): 'The surviving crew can take the standard emergency shuttle.'
[2021-01-14T04:19:25] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (40,111,1): 'aye'
[2021-01-14T04:19:31] SAY: Edgar Miller (40,106,1): 'Well thank you very much'
[2021-01-14T04:19:58] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (44,116,1): 'disembark please'
[2021-01-14T04:20:14] SAY: Phillip Orrbe (42,133,1): '...Who are you?'
[2021-01-14T04:20:18] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,111,1): 'Aboard the cyberiad'
[2021-01-14T04:20:20] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,111,1): 'we have our orders'
[2021-01-14T04:20:27] SAY: Gabaghoul Smith (47,117,1): 'do i need to leave?'
[2021-01-14T04:20:29] SAY: Gamma ERT 553 (43,116,1): you have to disembark
[2021-01-14T04:20:31] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (46,116,1): 'yyes'
[2021-01-14T04:20:37] SAY: Gabaghoul Smith (47,117,1): 'ok'
[2021-01-14T04:21:16] SAY: Gamma ERT 553 (41,110,1): what do we do with it?
[2021-01-14T04:21:21] SAY: Phillip Orrbe (45,133,1): 'An emergency evacuation shuttle should be arriving soon, I suggest heading for departures.'
[2021-01-14T04:21:23] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,113,1): 'leave it on the station'
[2021-01-14T04:21:32] SAY: Gamma ERT 553 (40,112,1): will bring it into vault
[2021-01-14T04:21:36] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,112,1): 'aye'
[2021-01-14T04:21:36] SAY: Edgar Miller (40,132,1): 'why can't i escape on this'
[2021-01-14T04:21:45] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,111,1): (Response Team) 'Commander, nuke is being returned to vault'
[2021-01-14T04:21:46] EMOTE: Holybluman/(Oak) (40,107,1): Oak waves
[2021-01-14T04:21:48] SAY: Phillip Orrbe (43,132,1): 'Because, you can't.'
[2021-01-14T04:21:49] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,108,1): 'disembarl'
[2021-01-14T04:21:53] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,105,1): 'disembark, even'
[2021-01-14T04:22:39] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (43,116,1): 'we'll revive em back at CC'
[2021-01-14T04:22:42] SAY: Phillip Orrbe (38,133,1): 'Can you perhaps not?'
[2021-01-14T04:22:46] SAY: Holybluman/(Oak) (35,133,1): 'nope'
[2021-01-14T04:22:55] SAY: Gamma ERT 553 (41,117,1): nuclear device was returned safely to vaults
[2021-01-14T04:22:56] ADMIN: Holybluman/(Oak) requested to move the transport ferry to Centcom.
[2021-01-14T04:22:59] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,115,1): 'thank you'
[2021-01-14T04:23:06] SAY: Captain Vasilyev (42,115,1): (Response Team) 'Commander sir, awaiting you'
[2021-01-14T04:23:16] SAY: Phillip Orrbe (38,134,1): 'Aaaalright then. So be it. Can't say I didn't warn you.'
[2021-01-14T04:23:23] ATTACK: Phillip Orrbe (44,133,1) against Holybluman/(Oak)(38,133,1): Shot with a /obj/item/projectile/beam/pulse
[2021-01-14T04:23:23] ATTACK: Phillip Orrbe (44,133,1) against Holybluman/(Oak)(39,133,1): Shot with a /obj/item/projectile/beam/pulse
[2021-01-14T04:23:23] ATTACK: Phillip Orrbe(44,133,1) against Holybluman/(Oak)(39,133,1): Shot with a /obj/item/projectile/beam/pulse
[2021-01-14T04:23:24] ATTACK: Phillip Orrbe (44,133,1) against Holybluman/(Oak)(40,133,1): Shot with a /obj/item/projectile/beam/pulse
[2021-01-14T04:23:24] GAME: Holybluman/(Oak) fell unconscious at The Transport Shuttle (40,133,1) (/area/shuttle/transport)
[2021-01-14T04:23:24] ATTACK: Phillip Orrbe (44,133,1) against Holybluman/(Oak)(41,133,1): Shot with a /obj/item/projectile/beam/pulse
[2021-01-14T04:23:25] ATTACK: Phillip Orrbe (44,133,1) against Satanacio666/(BIG Phaenis)(36,133,1): Shot with a /obj/item/projectile/beam/pulse
[2021-01-14T04:23:26] ATTACK: Phillip Orrbe (44,133,1) against Satanacio666/(BIG Phaenis)(35,133,1): Shot with a /obj/item/projectile/beam/pulse
[2021-01-14T04:23:57] ADMIN: Adminhelp: Holybluman/(Oak): well that was RDM... - heard by 6 non-AFK admins.
[2021-01-14T04:25:12] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): >You were told to leave. CentComm officers can ignore space law. It's not RDM. It's what happens when you ignore CC officers.
[2021-01-14T04:25:40] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: No not really, i was thinking he was asking if i can move the shuttle, Was not at all was to leave the shuttle.
[2021-01-14T04:26:04] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: Phillip Orrbe asks, "Can you perhaps not?"
[2021-01-14T04:26:12] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: thats all he said.
[2021-01-14T04:26:35] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: and when he said it i was next to the console so i was thinking he was talking about the console
[2021-01-14T04:27:30] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: so in short, I was not told to get off or had no warning given or was told other wise beside Phillip Orrbe asks, "Can you perhaps not?" Which Can BE point to the other player that was along too
[2021-01-14T04:27:36] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): That's how it goes. You should know better. You did not. Now you do.
[2021-01-14T04:27:46] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: Still RDM
[2021-01-14T04:27:57] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: with no real warning
[2021-01-14T04:28:59] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: Murder is not acceptable for non-antags. Killing should only be done in extreme self-defense, during an authorized execution, or in any situation Security can employ lethal force. If you wish to murder, or at least seriously injure, someone, Administrator permission is required
[2021-01-14T04:29:25] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): What part of CentComm officers are free to ignore space law did you not understand?
[2021-01-14T04:31:04] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: -.- Yes they can ignore space law but they cant just RDM freely too, they must give warnings at least 2 or three
You see people are being thrown off by CC + ERT saying they cannot use it to escape. The ERT Captain told you to get off, you forced your way in anyway. CC asked "Could you not" as in "Could you not force your way onto the shuttle and get off", to which you replied nope.
[2021-01-14T04:36:24] ADMIN: Adminhelp: Holybluman/(Oak): About that Random death match, I say that the NTR did not give the right warning at all and just was short temper and just RDM me so he did not had to deal with me by talking, which can had Solved the problem - heard by 6 non-AFK admins.
[2021-01-14T04:36:50] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): That wasn't the NT Rep at all. That was a Nanotrasen Naval Officer.
[2021-01-14T04:39:52] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: In any event still can had talk to me and not just gun me down, and just talk to me, beside Phillip Orrbe asks, "Can you perhaps not?" and that was "Not" very clear orders at all.
[2021-01-14T04:40:50] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): I mean... you were on a CentComm shuttle. Being asked by a CentComm officer to not. I'd ask for clarification if you were confused.
[2021-01-14T04:41:10] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): This was not a case of RDM at all. This was a case of you learning something.
[2021-01-14T04:47:09] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: yes sir, i had learn that they can just kill me at any time now that was sarcasm and in any event, and with my opinion he handle it the wrong way and if i were to be a new player or a player that don't know a lot then I will had think they just RDM for no good reason at all, and I highly Stress that, it can teach them the Wrong way too, if they play for a long time here too or be lucky to pick to be a ERT and just start mass RDM because they were RDM by a ERT or centcom
[2021-01-14T04:49:00] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): Look. I've explained what happened. The admin who executed you was not in the wrong.
[2021-01-14T04:50:34] ADMIN: PM: Holybluman/(Oak)->Esenno: Can i have the Admin's name please, so i can file a complaint on the forums
[2021-01-14T04:51:03] ADMIN: PM: Esenno->Holybluman/(Oak): Marginalorb was the admin.