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  1. admin Ckey: @Qwertytoforty

    my key: Kenken244

    my discord name Kenken244

    date of incident 11/19/2020

    nature of incident: abuse of powers

    brief description: after reports of three princess of terror spiders on the station, I faxed cc politely requesting a bioscan to confirm these reports, Instead I was publicly shamed by a CC announcement because I didn't label my paper and had capitalization mistakes. they also announced that they would refuse all ERT requests and then flooded the station with radiation

    full description:

    after talking with @necaladunover PMs after his announcement regarding admin IC interactions, I decided to file an admin complaint for this. It happened a week ago, so forgive me if I misremember some of the details. it was a long extended round. things were going rather well, but we were disturbed by reports of three princess spiders in one location, so at the recommendation of the NT rep, I faxed CC politely requesting a bioscan to confirm these reports and told them that we do not need an ert at this time. in response, I was publicly shamed by a CC announcement because I didn't label my paper and had capitalization mistakes (which has NEVER been an issue before in all my time captaining, especially not for an emegency fax!) and he decided to douse the station in radiation before giving us totally useless information about how many spiders there were, and then saying that he would refuse all ERT requests because I said we do not need an ert at this time. if this is not something that you should fax CC for, a simple "no" would have sufficed instead of public shaming and intentionally sabotaging the whole crew. this even led to some people calling for a vote of no confidence. all over a very minor mistake!. I think that captains have enough to deal with without worrying about public shaming from CC because they didn't label their fax during an emergency. please note that I am not complaining about the three terror spider infestation, as that was an interesting way to spice up an extended round that had already gone on over an hour, but rather the CC response to my fax

  2. one thing I probably should have mentioned in the meeting is that the next survey like this should probably be advertised in game somehow, as if its only forum and discord users then it will skew the data pretty severely

  3. if you read more carefully, I declared INTER dependence in your first quote, not independence. it was a joke, but also a serious complaint about the lack of cargo techs. while the hop decided to grant us independence, I did not acknowledge it because I did not ask for independence and he doesn't have the right to grant it in any case.  at no point did I order people to shoot command or security on sight. we armed ourselves because the typical response from the station is to come in and arrest or shoot everyone, so we needed armaments to have a secure negotiating position. you gave us no option to negotiate, instead simply stated that you were going to kill us all. you gave security a grand total of FOUR minutes to deal with this, before deciding to handle it yourself. that doesn't allow ANYONE the chance to deal with it ICly

    I was not attempting to hijack the station, simply hold out in cargo after declaring independence. player antags are allowed to come up with their own objectives if they want to. it was not my intention to kill ANYONE, in fact the only people who died here were killed by the admin. I made sure that nobody would leave cargo with their guns, so that they wouldn't go around shooting security at random, only if they attempted to storm cargo.

    you did not give us even the opprotunity to show that we could have any amount of RP, nobody on the crew did any rule-breaking actions, you simply showed up and shot us all because we "might" have self antagged

  4. admins ckey: @Abydos

    my ckey: @Kenken244

    discord name: kenken244

    date of complaint: the round in question ended at midnight on friday, december 13th in central time. the game in question mostly took place on the 12th. I don't know what that is in gmt, sorry.

    nature of complaint: misconduct: abuse of powers

    brief description: as a traitor quartermaster, CC informed command about my plans to declare independence as cargonia even though I had not yet undertaken any illegal activities or mentioned my plans anywhere on comms, only in personal communication with cargo techs. when the declaration was made, he immediately spawned in a CC special operations officer  in a room that was inaccessable from the rest of the station, before anyone had any chance to interact with command or security, and shot my character on sight, before I had any chance to even talk to him. when making my declaration I did mention that I was doing it because of an illegal arrest that was made against me previous in the round, invoking the clause in space law that allows subversion of the chain of command in cases of incompetence, and that I was open to negotiation with CC about replacement of command staff. as an antag I believe I have a right to RP my own objectives without a CC officer instantly teleporting in out of nowhere and killing me

    full description of events: as a traitor QM for most of the round I did little more than talk about how great cargonia was and ask the hop to get me some more cargo techs, as I was rather low and it was hard to run cargo with so few. at one point I did make a joke about INTERdependence on the comms, mentioning that I would need some help from the rest of the station if I was to actually do my job properly. nobody seemed to interpret this in any way other than the way that I intended. apparently, at some point CC informed the captain that I was planning to declare independence, even though as far as I know I didn't even mention the word up until that point, and this ultimately resulted in my arrest, despite not having done anything illegal yet. at this point I had begun to order weapons, but as the station was on red alert, I was within my rights to do so, and even if I was not, that is just an SOP violation, not space law. 

    when I returned to cargo I declared independence over comms, citing the illegal arrest I was subject to, stating that I was invoking the clause in space law allowing mutiny in the case of severe command incompetence (though I know it was not truly justified) and that I was open to negotiating with nanotransen about their command staff. at this point, several crew members joined us, and we walled off cargo completely and armed ourselves up in anticipation of retaliation. at no point did we venture beyond cargo, and we never had a chance to confront security aside from a small incident early on where I personally shooed the hop off with a laser. only a few minutes later, a CC officer teleported into cargo despite it being completely walled off from the outside, and shot me on sight, without giving me even a chance to speak. this ultimately resulted in the CC officer killing everyone in cargo after the cargo techs retaliated

    I was hoping for at least some interesting RP or negotiations with other members on the station, but instead I was completely shut down at every turn and never had a chance to do anything

    now, I understand that sending in a Special operations officer is the usual response to a declaration of independence by cargo. however I have several issues with the way that abydos conducted himself:

    1: informing command of the fact that I was planning independence, despite not having given central command any reason to suspect such

    2: teleporting inside of cargo despite it being walled off from the outside and having no outside access

    3: shooting me on sight without giving me a chance to even RP a negotiation or even surrender

    4: not giving me the chance to do any RP with the station or command before immediately shutting things down

    now, I understand that cargonia is a bit of a meme, but nevertheless it is an important part of SS13 culture. as an antag I think I have the right to declare independence from the station. while I know this brings up issues about self antag, I have asked about this in the past and I have been told that as long as we are completely defensive and do not attempt to take control of the station, this is acceptable. thus I walled cargo off from the rest of the station and made sure to order energy guns, giving crew a non lethal option if they wished to use it. the CC officer was teleported in before cargo had attacked anyone. I really don't think that admin intervention at that point, and in the way in which it happened, was justified. as an antag I was trying to make the round more interesting and had the admins not intervened, I think it had potential to be fun for everyone. I know I am not alone in my complaints about how the admin conducted himself in this round

     

  5. admin key: @TDS

    my ckey Kenken244

    my discord: kenken244

    date of incident 2019-9-11

    nature of complaint: misapplication of rules

    link to ban appeal

    brief description: TDS apparently misunderstood my motivation for performing these actions, apparently ignored the extenuating circumstances I tried to bring up in my appeal, and also made errors in the interpretation of the rules

    Full description of events: I know this isn't the place to put a secondary appeal for a ban, however I talked to mysticLiger who was the admin responsible for reviewing my ban appeal and they said I had a case, and to take it to a headmin, I then took it to kyet who told me to make an appeal here.

    my description of events is detailed in my ban appeal, my issues with my rejection are as follows:
     

    Firstly, the reason which I killed the security officer and considered security an illegitimate authority were not because they ignored a minor crime (sabotage is in fact a major crime) but mainly because they claimed that security was immune to the law, and that they repeatedly resorted immediately to force when faced with an unsatisfactory borg, rather than even making an attempt to correct the behavior through non-destructive means, even when I repeatedly told them exactly what they needed to do in order to allow me to do so.

    secondly. TDS claimed that PALADIN is a default lawset, which is NOT true, paladin is alongside laws such as "oxygen is toxic to humans" and I believe I am justified in being overzealous about enforcing these laws, much as a paladin might

    thridly, it neglects the fact that I originally attempted to arrest the officers in accordance with space law and SOP. iit was only when that attempt at a lawful arrest for a legitimate crime was met with immediate use of force that I considered force

    fourthly: it does not include any explanation of something else I could have done. as a PALADIN borg I would consider ignoring a corrupt and evil authority to be an Evil act, and I do not think there was any other punishment I could have given to the officers that would have a remote chance of success. I also cannot imagine any circumstance in which a paladin borg would consider a security team who considers themselves above the law to be a legitimate authority

    finally, I would like to briefly explain the circumstances of my previous warning. I was reprimanded for using lethal force during a CC override that instructed me to take command of the station. I mistakenly believed that this was the act of a traitor, since there was nothing in my laws that mentioned this was sanctioned by CC. I believed that conflict with command was inevitable, and as a malf borg I was justified in using lethal force. If I had known that this was a CC sanctioned law change, I would not have used lethal force

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