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    I think you'll still find some commonalities to humour, even between radically different people and settings.

     

    For example people will generally find funny.

    1) Unexpected outcomes that none the less logically follow from perceived events.

    2) A reversal in status. Something serious being treated frivolously or something frivolous being treated seriously.

     

    While what things fall into these categories vary between cultures and individuals, the broad principles generally remain the same. This isn't to imply that these are the only comedic things, that's not even touching on slapstick, farce and surrealism. These two are just examples that I can quote off the top of my head.

     

    Psychologists sometimes read too much into humour, I agree. Particularly those from the fairly Freudian camps of psycho-analysis. But it's definitely a universal human phenomenon that occurs across all cultural bounds, so there's definitely some underlying structure.

     

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    Hi Jaden, welcome aboard. I'm glad you're enjoying it so much here.

     

    My biggest question would be how everyone feels about recording shifts and putting them up on youtube. I really think this game has huge potential for comedy / intrigue even if its not going to get a million views, but I don't want to be seen as some low effort spammer.

     

    You're definitely welcome to stream your gameplay from our server, make let's play videos and otherwise share it with other people.

     

    As an example, one of our other players has made a series of comedy videos on youtube about playing SS13. I've placed a link to one of the episodes below.

     

     

     

     

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    football (Real football. None of that Commie junk )

     

    Pfft. Aussie Rules AFL is the only real football.

     

    AFL, Where you carry the ball in your hands, dribble it, pass it to other players and only kick for the goals. Also we award points for trying if you miss the goal.

     

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    Receiving adminhelps that use people's job-title, i.e. "the Virologist is griefing me" rather than "Nicholas Bennett is griefing me". I don't enjoy looking up the crew manifest to find their character name, then searching for that character name in the list of 90 odd people (which is sorted by Ckey and not character name) to find their player Ckey and then messaging them. When they use the person's name though it creates a hyperlink that I can just click on.

     

    Receiving adminhelps saying "Why aren't you doing anything?", especially while I'm doing the above.

     

    Receiving adminhelps that include the words "for no reason" since about 90% of the time whatever they just said is a lie and two minutes down the line I'm asking them "could it be because you attacked them with a mining drill earlier?".

     

    Receiving adminhelps that say "Kiana Ender is griefing/metagaming/powergaming/bad RPing" without providing details about what they're doing. I'm usually too busy to play twenty questions.

     

    Receiving adminhelps insulting another player behind their back.

     

    Being told to read the server rules I helped write.

     

    Asking someone a question and being told to "check the logs" rather than them just answering the question.

     

    Shuttlegrief.

     

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    Actually having seen the karma list, I wouldn't say that it frequently goes to the spotlight-grabbing attention seekers. Many of the higher karma totals on the server belong to some of the more quiet and unassuming players who often have nothing that they can spend it on anymore. If nothing else, the spotlight chasers tend to spend time sitting out in the ban appeal forum and not getting any karma while they can't play.

     

    When I admin I sit there watching the chat-logs, and my karma for the round almost always goes to the person I see having an actual conversation with someone else in character. Someone once made my day by noticing that my assistant had the same hairstyle as them and started trading hair-care tips.

     

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    Someone edit that for SS13!

     

    I have to go to bed, so I only had time for some very quick photoshop... your wish is my command however.

     

    loversinspess_zps650c67ac.png

     

    Insomniac Edit: They loved eachother, but he could never say it. She never seemed to take their relationship seriously. Over time he started putting up walls and giving her the silent treatment. That night though as the crowds rushed to the escape shuttle they fell into eachother's arms and both blushing remembered how they first fell for one another... damn janitor.

     

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    The rules have already been quoted above. If your RP requires violence as a non-antagonist, you should contact the administration staff first to receive permission. These rules are clear and explicit, you either knowingly broke them or had not chosen to familiarize yourself with the rules of our server. Administration staff are required to enforce the server rules and as such complaints against them for doing so are not applicable.

     

    Since you do not mention any other issues with social system's conduct, beyond the ban itself, this is not a valid complaint.

     

    Complaint Closed

     

    If you have any complaints about this or any other admin's behaviour other than enforcing the server rules, please open a specific complaint regarding that conduct.

     

    Should you feel that the server rules are incorrect or require changing, I recommend the suggestions forum as the appropriate venue. However do note that playing on our server requires accepting the rules as they currently are and that disagreeing with the rules is not justification for breaking them.

     

    Had your ban not already elapsed, you could appeal it within our appeals forum.

     

    Regards,

    M Kenner.

    Senior Admin.

     

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    To be honest, I don't really understand the complaint here.

     

    Bone-white clarified with you that "shitler" was meant as an insult, you then followed up with "fuck the AI".

     

    You were told to stop and had OOC privileges revoked because you seemed to feel that using OOC venues to insult other players were appropriate and we didn't want to risk you doing it in a public forum until we had your commitment to stop.

     

    You never gave us that commitment and showed no understanding that your actions could be offensive. You were banned only at your own request at the end.

     

    I was on at the same time, communicating privately with Bone-white and approved the ban.

     

    Since I was involved myself, I will allow the other admins to chime in here. It's not appropriate for me to make a ruling about actions I was a part of.

     

    Regards,

    M Kenner.

     

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    For people's convenience, here is the edited version of the log to make things clearer. I have included everything which seemed relevant and marked all of bone-white's responses with a triple asterisk and making the text blue.

     

    John Romero says, "AI is being a comdom"

    John Romero [145.9] says, "Fuck you"

    John Romero says, "Fuck you"

    Player Complaint: AI is being a shitler and saying I cant smoke

    ***Player Complaint from-CoderBone White: So shitler, being a combination of shit and hitler?

    Player Complaint to-Bone White: Yeah I cant even RP as a smoker without getting arrested, FUCK THE AI

    Question: woah what happened

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: I put you to sleep so I have your undivided attention.

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Go read rule one and tell me what part you broke.

    Player Complaint: Hate speech? what the hell did I say?

    Question: Hello?

    OOC: Mikecari: ugh what happened

    OOC: Mikecari: frozen for no raisin D:<

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Which part of rule 1 did you break?

    Question to-Bone White: I don't know, I didn't

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Well you'll be asleep until you can work it out.

    Question to-Bone White: really? That's abuse

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Calling someone a "Shit hitler" is abuse, you've gotten jobbaned twice in as many days.

    Question to-Bone White: It was in adminhelp

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: I don't care.

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: "OOC Profanity should be kept to a minimum and must be stopped if directed to do so by a member of staff, or if it appears that it is upsetting other players."

    Question to-Bone White: You never told me not to

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Consider this your telling. I'm going to be muting you from ooc.

    Question to-Bone White: It wasnt in ooc though

    You have been muted from OOC.

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: If you have that attitude I should probably ban you, if you think of any player that way ooc.

    Question to-Bone White: what? I dont get it

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Exactly why I'm concerned.

    Question to-Bone White: Actions speak louder than words

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Words get you banned as much as actions do.

    Question to-Bone White: alright I'll guess I'll make a report about you then

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Any hate speech, any direspect or ooc profanity, and you're going to get banned.

    Question to-Bone White: Honestly I dont mind at this point

    Question to-Bone White: oh wow

    Question to-Bone White: can I have my hat back? you stole it

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: It's back in the ai upload area.

    Question to-Bone White: ooc ban doesnt even make sense

    Question to-Bone White: Hello?

    Question to-Bone White: Man, and I thought I had a temper

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Are you going to play the round or sulk the entire shift?

    Question to-Bone White: I asked you a question, that's all

    Question to-Bone White: But I guess you don't like helping people

    Question to-Bone White: the Consoles still eat peoples' ids

    Question to-Bone White: I guess no one cares, eh

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Funnily enough we've known about it for two days, just get on with your shift.

    Question to-Bone White: but you said you fixed it

    Question to-Bone White: anyway can I leave, I don't wanna play on here anymore when you act so biased agaisnt me

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Never said that, I said I could, but being able and actually doing it are two different things we have bigger problems.

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: You're right I'm biased, most other admins would've just straight up banned you.

    Question to-Bone White: for what?

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: your shitler remark.

    Question to-Bone White: that's not even offensive

    Question to-Bone White: everything must be offensive then to you

    Question to-Bone White: I could say your name is offensive

    Question to-Bone White: and boom banned

    Question to-Bone White: Am I right?

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: It's not though. Bone is an item and a colour. We're talking about context here.

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: You were raging about the ai, calling him a shit hitler.

    Question to-Bone White: yeah I was referring to how the AI was acting like a dictator

    Question to-Bone White: how the hell is that offensive

    Question to-Bone White: But I guess you can just make anything up

    ***Question from-CoderBone White: Alright then, I'll ban you, and you can appeal on the forums.

    Question to-Bone White: Please, I don't mind

     

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    Thankyou for lodging your complaint.

     

    Insulting someone behind their back isn't any more pleasant than doing it to their face.

     

    Bone white asked you to stop, because quite frankly it's not our place nor role to hear you bitching about other people. You could have expressed your difficulties with the AI in a mature, responsible way. Instead you chose to describe them as "Shitler".

     

    Had you simply acknowledged the request to stop it wouldn't have needed to go further. Instead you proceeded to argue with the admin.

     

    I may have missed something amidst the long torrent of log you posted, so an edit would be appreciated for proper handling of this complaint. However from a surface reading, it looks as though Bone White's actions were justified under the circumstances.

     

    Regards,

    M Kenner.

    Senior Admin.

     

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