AceLivion Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 So we have a lot of Small Crimes. you know the small stuff that security don't give a rats ass about. Ohh so somebody hit you twice whit a cane? Im sorry but we are on red Alert and syndicates are trying to blow us up. ohh someone walked into the bar and forced you to eat Space drugs? go to medical Security are stressed already trying to stop rouge AI. and so on and on.... do i need to say more? The job is simple, you have the right to arrest people and give them a 5 min prison time (graded that it is fair). anything higher than that you need someone whit a higher position to give. but since this require people to play responsible and >NOT< misuse its power it need to be a Karma Role. how does this work? you start whit normal cloth and a Fake Id, whit a fake name on, a extra PDA saying Civilian. a pair of handcuffs and a stun baron. no need for anything else. from here on just walk around the station and try and spot people doing criminal activity. change cloth frequently and change the name on the fake ID from time to time. (even if HoP hate to do extra work) get hands on a camera if you need evidence of the crime seen or some evidence bags. maybe a fake mustache, get good friend whit the barber and detective. and help make the station a little safer. note your not part of the normal Security force. this job have main focus on catching the small crime and is not meant to battle all the traitors and supernatural stuff that is security's area. so a undercover cop who pick up a Armored vest and a Lazar gun to battle Vampires is not a good Undercover cop! thoughts and ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyentific Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 so basically it's vigilante assistant but you can brig people for <5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldflame Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 this is 100% doable ingame already and happens semi regularly making this have its own role would make it predictable and useless to security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarzad Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 this is 100% doable ingame already and happens semi regularly making this have its own role would make it predictable and useless to security Pretty much this. You can always just have a regular security officer go undercover, really at any point in time. It's not like you can't remove the security gear from yourself and dress as a civvie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceLivion Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 so basically it's vigilante assistant but you can brig people for <5m you know is not really Vigilante unless your acting outside of the law. while Security seams more like a Military police this was thought more in a manner of civil police and the ability to brig people for up to 5 min was thought as a way of making the small stuff being processed faster then having them wait 10 minutes for a magistrate to show up. but its easy to say they cant, and have to follow the same simple procedure as a regular guard. this is 100% doable ingame already and happens semi regularly making this have its own role would make it predictable and useless to security well its a semi regularity that i have not seen happen ingame yet. (or maybe they are just that good) how does something predictable make it useless? are we talking that people will stop assaulting each other? or people who wish to do criminal stuff will do it less obviously? does not sound to bad to me if people try and sneak into the maintenance area, or isolate people instead of publicly beat someone up. in fear that there might be a undercover cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
improvedname Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Having a undercover agent on the station all shifts wouldnt make it really undercover would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceLivion Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Having a undercover agent on the station all shifts wouldnt make it really undercover would it? it would not make it a secret that his on the station true but is that a problem?, but as long as he pretend to be a civilian his pretty much undercover. but an alternative can easy be to add a fake ID and Civilian PDA at security. its easy alright. yet i kinda feel that being able to chose this as a role makes it a little more interesting then just tossing in another security guard, and help make it a focus on civilian criminality since a i often feel security is to confused/stressed to handle all the "none threatening" crimes and more see people trying to report such crimes as an nuisance they simply ignore and walk by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPK Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 We have IAAs to handle minor crimes. If you're getting ignored by security, go to them. Furthermore, minor crimes like those you're describing are the hardest part of playing security, oddly enough. Unless the perp is very, very clearly being a shitler, security has to go through the mess of deciphering who started what, how badly did X beat up Y, was it self defense, who owned the item in the first place, ect. An undercover cop isn't going to solve any of that. If anything, undercover cops are going to just clog up processing even more than it already is. These days people have a very bad tendency of bringing people into processing rather than directly to a cell, so that room get flooded with prisoner's junk and people just standing around because no one has the balls to actually sentence the prisoner sitting in processing. It's an admirable idea, but in practice I just can't see it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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