Streaky Haddock Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Change the Cargo Ordering Console to be more of a vending machine that you order specific items (and QUANTITIES) from and the Cargo guys can accept/deny each item, reduce the quantities etc. This is obviously more complex than it sounds since you'd need to come up with prices for individual items but it'd be much more convenient than ordering an entire art supplies crate when all you want is the camera. In addition, they should have all the vendors. All of them. Maybe even a Protolathe + R&D Console. The RD already has the ability to restrict a console's access to the RnD database anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanthelis Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 If you give cargo RnD, then RnD has little to no job. It's really not hard to get an engineer to get the destructive analyzer board from tech storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 ...point taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Honestly this'd be great. I can't tell you the number of times I've ordered crates when I only want literally one item out of it. For instance, Bone Gel. Bone Gel can only be acquired from crates, and there's only two on the map, so if those go missing all mechanical organ/bone surgeries become immediately impossible without a surgery crate which can take 5-10+ minutes depending on if there's a cargo department or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Wouldn't a simpler way be to just have crates as normal, but allow for removing items at no cost reduction? I would also love far more types of crates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanthelis Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 ... Why wouldn't you just send the excess items you didn't want back on the shuttle? Or store them in the warehouse that exists solely for that purpose? However, you REALLY should get a list of what's in a crate when you're ordering it. Not everyone has the master list of contents like a few of us with the code and the ability to read it do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 ... Why wouldn't you just send the excess items you didn't want back on the shuttle? Or store them in the warehouse that exists solely for that purpose? It would be far simpler to just uncheck a box then work out what to do with the spare mop bucket the janitor doesn't need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanthelis Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The supply shuttle obliterates everything on it when you send it back. Everything. I once sent it back with a cargo telepad on it and teleported myself there with an RCS, but I found that I could not get onto CC (dangit) but I also had my entire character deleted and I became a ghost in the arrivals shuttle, similar to what happens when a vampire mistforms into an rwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The supply shuttle obliterates everything on it when you send it back. Everything. I once sent it back with a cargo telepad on it and teleported myself there with an RCS, but I found that I could not get onto CC (dangit) but I also had my entire character deleted and I became a ghost in the arrivals shuttle, similar to what happens when a vampire mistforms into an rwall. Ahaha, a sad end. Didn't realize that, guess it was changed. But even then it still stands, I don't want to have to open a crate up, throw the stuff out that is useless and then send it on its way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I'll be frank; I don't think the amount of work required to put into this would make it worth it in the long term; it's going to be a large amount of work to retool an entire system just to solve a relatively minor problem. While I realize no pre-set system will ever be perfect, the recent cargo overhaul did help cut down on crate content waste (and sometimes costs) so there's less overlap and people are getting more what they want from said crates It's also worth mentioning that the current system has a really nice feedback loop that would be messed up: (1)you order stuff (2)stuff comes in crates (3)crates take up space/are annoying, but there's no incentive to really do anything about it (initially) (4)Crates grant points if sent back to Centcom (5)Incentive to get rid of the crates generated and gives cargo something further to do. That said, when crates generate points (which IMO is an excellent thing), it has a consequence; no crate can be less expensive than the cost of the crate+a stamp manifest, or else you can just keep ordering+stamping to generate unlimited amounts of cargo points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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