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1 hour ago, Frank said:
Why not make it easier for ourselves and call it none?
Well, we already have genderless, which is synonymous with 'none', but which is not the same thing as being enby. It'd be great to expand the lore of more species and their genders/sexes, but opening things up for people to RP their own gender identity in general seems cool to me too.
I'm all for it.
Nerf
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Here is my Barry (big, bottom) and my Betsy (smol, top).
They are stupid.
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24 minutes ago, AidanFair said:
I'm fine with perma death assassinations. And I'm the victim of them factors more than the perpetrator. I'm going to go against the grain and say that it actually makes the game better. It adds risk. Ups the stakes. If you want to make things more fun for the perma dead, add some more fun ghost roles. The fact that you could be gibbed and have your brain made into burgers by the chef is a good thing. Or thrown into the SM crystal. Or cremated. It adds tension. And sometimes comedy.
If you're getting salty over perma death, maybe this game isn't for you. Maybe I'm wrong. But I feel like getting round removed is more of a feature than a bug for the atmosphere of the game.
I very much agree with this sentiment (I'm also one of those nerds who'd prefer cloning to not be a thing; so as to make death even more impactful). My suggestion was for if permadeath objectives are on the way out - as seems to be the growing consensus. More ghost roles would always be appreciated, too!
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12 hours ago, Frank said:
there is also the problem of a traitor taking a picture of a targets corpse that they didn't even kill. After the morgue photoshoot they will simply go "lol i did it" and leave. This is fraud. Fraud is bad.
While this is technically true, it ignores the fact that this is still an improvement on the current way assassination objectives work; whereby if your target dies for any reason it counts as a success, whether or not you had anything to do with their death (or even saw them at any point, dead or alive). The photo method would at least require some level of involvement/awareness of the victim's death. Not all criticisms turn into good ideas, either ;)
A more relevant issue with this idea is the potential for victims to die 'offscreen' after an attack, preventing a death-photo being taken at time-of-death. This could result in the somewhat odd scenario of the assassin bursting into medbay like a mad paparazzo, trying to photograph their victim's corpse before it can be revived or cloned.
9 hours ago, procdrone said:maybe instead of changing how the assassinate objective currently works, add a new objective "teach XX a lesson by killing them, take photo proof"; which would bring some variety into violent objectives and sometimes just wouldn't force you to permakill your objective
The reason I raised the photo idea was that there seems to be a push towards removing/heavily changing the current assassinate objective, but in the absence of that change I agree it could be interesting to have non-permadeath objectives - perhaps there could even be non-death objectives such as 'XX has upset Don Clownleoni, break his legs and take photo proof', but I suppose this strays into the area of minor-antags, which has been shot down on several occasions for various reasons.
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I'm not sure why traitors would revive victims out of kindness, but if permadeath objectives are on their way out anyway, I thought this may be a better system than others I've seen suggested.
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It would be unlikely to be 100% incriminating, but certainly would provide some significant evidence to go alongside the other physical evidence sec would gather.
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I know many people are dissatisfied with the way assassinate objectives currently work; requiring permadeath by default. I'm aware that solutions like leaving a calling card have been brought up, but I realised we already have a working solution in-game.
..and it's the 'steal station blueprints' objective.
This objective doesn't require the station blueprints to be physically stolen, so long as a photograph of them is (as it's the information that the Syndicate want, not the paper it's printed on). We could do the same with killing - either the target is dead at round-end (success), or you kill them and bring a photograph of their body with you at round end (success).
This would solve the permadeath issue which many have, while still having the killer vulnerable due to carrying the photo with them.
That is the end of my shower thought. Goodbye.-
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Hi there. You may have missed AA's announcement on the discord, but I reckon it will be very useful for you in combating this issue:
QuoteRight, we have a new attack (this involves >150k hosts so credit where its due for it actually being distributed) Please use any of the geo relays to connect (paste this into windows + R)
byond://us-e.paradisestation.org:6666
byond://us-w.paradisestation.org:6666
byond://uk.paradisestation.org:6666
byond://eu-w.paradisestation.org:6666
byond://eu-c.paradisestation.org:6666
byond://aus.paradisestation.org:6666
I will be monitoring the situation closely today and will reopen stuff if technology permits.Hope this helps!
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10 hours ago, AffectedArc07 said:
I am open to suggestions on how we sort this, since its a feature I want in, and a lot of other people do, but we cant impact the playerbase who dont play on 1080p. On that note I do want to profile what screen resolutions we get the most here, but I dont know of a good way to do that without snapping it with JS and something something GDPR. It would make for some nice figured I feel though.
I'd just like to weigh in alongside Bmon's point and clarify that it's not resolution that matters with this so much as screen size (and to a lesser extent, aspect ratio). A 1280x720p monitor that's 34 inches isn't going to have a tiny/difficult to read chat box after the widescreen change, but a 13 inch screen running a higher resolution - say 2880x1920 - is.
Polling what size monitors people use shouldn't be an issue, as they'd be volunteering that info in said poll. I don't think things like a hardware survey would show monitor size, so a poll would likely be the only way to get this information anyway. -
My overall take is while it looks a lot nicer, making the most important area of the screen (the chatbox) smaller means that the improved look just isn't quite worth it for me. On my desktop it's not quite such an issue with a big monitor, but on my laptop it squishes the chatbox into a 6cm wide space, causing almost everything there to loop, and in the verb box only leaving enough room for two columns of verbs.
I think with the fact that our playerbase will be playing SS13 on a huge range of screens, from the tiny surface pro of a Nerf, to the gargantuan 55inch TV of a RatNut, we should focus to make it playable on all of them, rather than optimising it for only the bigger ones.
Edit: I guess on smaller screens you can drag the chat window larger if you're happy with having black bars, so perhaps it's okay. I don't have a strong opinion either way. -
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I ahelped it, no idea if anything came of it or not.
I do think we as admins could sometimes do more to let players know what came of their ahelps. Perhaps knowing that the offending AI was warned/banned/or actually valid would have helped resolve that particular instance for you.
(I do agree that a 'You are not sec' text certainly couldn't hurt for silicons. After all, even Robocop only has following the law as it's third priority out of three) -
Without addressing your wider point, or touching on balance and things like that, I'm just going to respond to a couple of the rules/admins-based arguments:
QuoteAs it stands currently, the AI is 100% permitted to bolt in and call out any suspected antag it sees at any time, on any lawset. (Admins have confirmed this)
I'm not sure which admin would have told you that, and my assumption is that this is at least a partial mistranslation of what admins have said. We fairly commonly bwoink bolt-happy AIs who do so too much, and/or without reason. I'd go as far to say that this is far and away the most common thing silicons get bwoinked for.
QuoteThere are zero rules against an AI scouring the station looking for suspected antags to bolt or call out at roundstart
Other than Rule 8 which expressly forbids non-security to hunt antags, Rule 2 would also make using meta-knowledge to effectively powergame as an AI actively looking for antags which it would have no IC reason to believe are there bwoinkable. You are right, though, that this by itself is difficult to see or prove. However, an AI acting upon it would at least get a talking to. As one of the more major roles, AIs get a higher degree of scrutiny, so it's not at all uncommon for admins to do this.
In terms of actually stopping validhunting AIs - which I agree is a net positive for the server - there is one woefully underutilised method which can totally undo them: ahelping. If players actually ahelp AIs that go beyond their remit to just hunt antags then those AIs will either have to change their ways or not be allowed to play AI anymore. Admins aren't omniscient, and if we're not pointed to potential rulebreaks, they will often get missed.
Good luck with the thread!
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2 hours ago, Sirryan2002 said:
2. Polymorph spells are purely temporary
3. Entire round altering spells are completely removed (ghosts, guns, etc)
One possible way to do this , while still preserving the big-deal that is the wizard's death, would be to keep these spells and effects permanent until the wizard is killed. Rather than having the round just end at this point (which is something I've never heard anyone actually like) we could have a blip moment where all their spells are broken and the station has to pick up after itself. This would preserve the climatic moment of the wizard's death that we currently have, while doing a lot to unfuck the station from their magical machinations. I also think Sirryan's idea of having the brains remain from the wiz's more gibby spells would solve the issue of permadeath (even though personally I think more permadeath is more gooder).
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On 3/19/2022 at 9:50 AM, Charliminator said:
All cultists with visible gear, flag robes, shielded suits, etc. Should be considered armed and dangerous under space law.
Are there some players that think that armed and equipped cultists aren't armed and dangerous under Space Law? Seeing as the basic piece of equipment for a cultist is a magic stabby-boi even before they get extra stuff, this is a pretty strange take - especially when Space Law explicitly specifies flag-robed cultists as KOS-able:
QuoteLethals Authorised - Post-Combat Treatment/Revival Required: Cultists - (Flag Robes, Highly Armed, etc.)
For all the ways cult balance could be improved, this isn't one. It's a very, very rare situation where sec aren't already covered to KOS cultists.
KOS under Space Law != valid for most crew. If the argument is that cult should become valid earlier, then that holds more water.
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These are some rather complex new solutions when we already have a working solution in-game, but for crew-based objectives:
When your assassinate target - for example - moves into cryo storage, you automatically get a new target. If object-based objectives worked the same way if/when they were destroyed that would solve this issue (only no-longer working when all steal-able items were destroyed - at which point you probably have bigger issues).
This avoids having objective items order-able (in which case every object objective becomes - emagg the cargo terminal and get a new one), and avoids a weird hand-wave of replacement items just spawning in.
Having said all that; the best solution - imo - is the one which we are currently using: adminhelp if your objective is unachievable and the admins will find something that works for you.-
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2 hours ago, CinnamonSnowball said:
Clone Memory Disorder is all fine and dandy until you remember that somebody would have to actually enforce it for people to abide by it, which would be a bit of nightmare for the admin team as I've occasionally heard from admins commenting on the idea.
Just to weigh in on this aspect of it, I don't really think it would be any more difficult to enforce then any of our other rules. We can see when people died, when they were cloned, and if they then say 'Sec! Jimmy Stabbings stabbed me!' we'd see that, and could send in the bwoinks. It'd be more easily policed than - for example - rules about netspeaking, as we'd see sec's reaction over comms, changes to sec records, and people caught due to their victims post-cloned testimony would almost certainly ahelp.
On a personal level; I dislike cloning and how it can cheapen death, and be used as an alternative to surgery, but I'm aware that the community is very split on the issue.
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You should be able to get most of that info in game by clicking 'display current jobbans' in the 'OOC' tab.
I'd find it for you, but your byond ckey isn't 'chimpanzee123', apparently.
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This is for job bans too, so yes, you can use it.
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Hi there. You can appeal a ban in the 'unban request' area, here: https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/55-unban-requests/
You must follow this format:
Good luck with your unban request,
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14 hours ago, Spacemanspark said:
That's it undoes your mentor status
And just how would you do that, oh retired admin?
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1 hour ago, GutTC said:
Autumn Aggley
The Librarian,
This is clearly 100% accurate: I see no shoes anywhere!
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Whenever I'm adminning, I always think 'WWLSD' (What would Lord Singuloth do?). He never steers me wrong...
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1 hour ago, Esenno said:
some minor trifle.
A miner trifle, you say?!
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M.O.M.M.Y. loves everyone, so this post is invalid.
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I want YOU to read Lore!
in Wiki Development
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A minor thing, but in the Nanotrasen page, referring to the characters by first-name only dispels the wikipedia-article style which is being aimed for. Rather than:
Consider:
This will bring the style more in line with real-world articles on successfully businessmen. e.g. the wiki article on Bill Gates' and Paul Allen's relationship:
The personalities are full-named in the first instance, and surnamed from then.
Love the work, though. I'll keep editing this with more pedantic bullshit!
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