[Complaint against David Rossi]

I apologize. You all do a good job, I just get frustrated as I'm sure you do. David was not the problem.

[Complaint against David Rossi]

 

After significant additional rounds of play with Mr. Rossi present, I can see he has a difficult task as a moderator. He is incredibly active and informative. Even if I disagree with him in this instance, I would like this complaint closed and removed from his record. Thank you and I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused.

 

Respectfully,

Jason Parras

 

[Complaint against David Rossi]

And no you didn't literally say fuck off, it was just a TLDR.

[Complaint against David Rossi]

 

I appreciate your response David, but even in the responses I feel like you are focusing solely on what I did and not at all critical of the other individual. It just doesn't seem at all neutral from my, albeit biased, perspective. I wish that you would so feverishly defend my position as you have her's.

 

Look at it like this. You know from me telling you, and I'm sure there are ways you can check, that I have been playing with you guys for only about two weeks. I haven't learned even a tenth of what this game has to offer in that time. I don't know Tolly's level of experience but they seemed rather educated.

 

It seems cancerous to have a player that is so well versed in this game and this community's limits that they might exploit that and ride on such an edge that they would ruin the gameplay of not just one, but two individuals. Is that not call for concern? Is that not worth my complaint? Does it not warrant more than just a, "Yeah, that was shitty?" If I'm not in my department or doing my job and instead harming others as a non-antag, I am beownked. Every. Single. Time. Especially if I've already incapacitated one peaceful player.

 

[Complaint against David Rossi]

 

Admin Key: David Rossi

 

Complaint:

 

Good Afternoon,

 

My complaint is in regards to an issue I endured during a round on 10/27/2015 at approximately 1350 hours EST. I was playing as a humble station engineer named Caden Thomas when I was called to fix the wall to chemistry which had been deconstructed. I arrived to find Tolly Hawker, a botanist wearing a gas mask and an engineering hardsuit, inside the chemistry lab utilizing the machines. The medical doctor that was on scene asked her to leave and she refused. He attempted to disarm her and drag her out but when she stood up, she disarm spammed him, armed herself with a crowbar, beat the man in the head, then kept him in a perpetual state of disarming. I backed up and called for security. Security never responded or dealt with Tolly throughout this entire incident. Tolly offered the argument that she had been blinded and was attempting to create a chemical to heal her ocular damage. I asked her to wait outside with me while I fixed the wall, she refused. Instead she began stuffing beakers into her backpack and creating chemicals. I tried to stop her by removing the chemicals from the buffer and deactivating the machines all the while reminding her that she was trespassing. Tolly engaged in the typical immersion shattering arguments of "You should've picked security at the beginning of the round if that's what you wanted to play," that so many players do when they are told by a regular employee to stop doing criminal behaviors. Despite her lack of roleplaying ability, I attempted to educate her that my role was simply to repair a breach in a secure area and that her presence in said secure area would be reported by any loyal NanoTrasen employee. My arguements were futile as she continued to shove me and move about the lab at her own will. When I removed her chemicals from the machine and threw them on the floor she became enraged and stated that she was going to attack me.

 

I again called for security and eventually a borg arrived. The borg asked what was going on but left almost immediately as it arrived. I again disabled the equipment and pleaded with Tolly to leave with me and wait for appropriate staff to assist her. She exclaimed, "That's it," and armed herself with metal sheeting, and began beating me in the head mercelessly. I attempted to move away but she pursued me and continued her onslaught. I dove into my inventory frantically, withdrew a flamethrower, and lit her aflame.

 

Unfortunately, my lack of knowledge of the game led to that action killing both of us as there was a welding tank nearby. We were brought to the cloning facility and she was helped first. After she was fully cloned and healed, her first action was to grab my lifeless body, throw it into the trash chute, and then deconstruct it so that I would be without my body. When I was cloned, she made sure to make fun of the situation before throwing me into the chute and fleeing.

 

I contacted admin David Rossi and relayed the aforementioned information. Initially, David was somewhat neutral and inquired about certain details. I was completely transparent about my role in this incident and explained to him a concise version of the above describe events. He stated that while her actions were shitty, they did not violate any of the rules and stated that I had in fact violated the rules by escalating my violence. I submit to you the following:

 

4. Avoid Excessive Violence:

 

When provoked into extreme anger a punch or two may be realistic but Nanotrasen doesn't hire people who bludgeon someone to death with a crowbar when angry...

 

While I admit that a flame thrower is arguably a violation of said rules, had I not defended myself with it, I would've been placed into a critical state by Tolly because of her actions against me. Bear in mind, I had dealt with this individual for well over five minutes and in that time watched her bludgeon another person into incapacitation. Was it my role to submit to their beating and allow myself to be incapacitated?

 

8. Meta:

 

When it comes to character skills, please try not to be a Mary-Sue who knows how to do everything on the station. As a guideline, it is ok to know 1 department out of your field - such as a security officer knowing engineering, or 2 if they are related, such as a Scientist knowing some medical and chemistry.

 

Is it likely that a botanist knows some chemistry? Sure. Should they also know how to deconstruct station walls? Probably not... Should they be in an engineering hardsuit? N-No... Not really... Should they immediately attack the corpse of an individual they had an altercation with after arguing with them as a ghost as soon as they are cloned? I sure fucking hope not...

 

3. Play the Role you’ve chosen:

 

Choose the role based on what you want to spend the round doing, not in order to obtain access and equipment or to impress people with a prestigious title. If you take a role, other players will be expecting - and may rely on you to do it.

 

I checked after our altercation, no plants were being grown, no botanist to be found.

 

7. Self-Antagging:

 

While petty crimes and theft are acceptable if it fits your character, if you are not an antagonist, actions such as subverting the AI, stealing high value items such as the Captain's ID, mutiny, and other actions that could lead others to believe you are antagonists are not to be done.

 

I stuck around to the end to see if Tolly was an antagonist and what a surprise, she was not. I was told by David that she was given no discipline, not even a warning, for her actions against me and the other player. I did my best to argue my point with David but he refused to listen. He often misquoted exact logs saying, "She just pushed you a few times and accidently hit you." I corrected him by pasting the logs into our chat showing the Tolly willfully disarmed me multiple times and struck me in the face with metal repeatedly while verbally stating her intentions to strike me. Despite this, David was unwavering in his resolution of the incident, which was to scold me, formally warn me, and leave my character naked, clone damaged, and stuck without any identification.

 

For the remainder of the round I was tased multiple times by security and arrested for not having identification. My round was completely ruined and some asshole got to have a grand time. I know if any admin caught me, an non-antagonist botanist, trespassing in a secured area, with priority equipment that didn't belong to my profession, beating up staff that work in the department I am claiming to need help from, they would have sent me on a vacation to think about my actions. Why didn't Tolly just ask the doctor that was asking her to leave for help? Why was she beating the doctor instead? Why was none of this addressed?

 

Far be it from from me to assume that because I asked an admin for help I am automatically right. And do not mistake my complaint for me claiming to have not made a mistake during this incident. But how can one be so obviously blind to the chaotic rule breaking behavior of another player? Aside from David being in a romantic relationship with whoever plays Tolly, or being Tolly hinself, I cannot see why she would not have been disciplined.

 

My complaint of this incident may seem petty but I'm making it to ask you to look at this from a new player's perspective. Maybe it's an error for me to see you community as a business that wants to cater to others to create a fun environment so if I'm wrong in that, I apologize. But other admins have given me the impression that they give a shit and David accomplished exactly the opposite. I'm trying to learn this game and how this community wants me to act. I'm really fucking trying. I'm playing by the rules, or the best interpretations of them that I can muster. Situations are constantly evolving and often unique so sometimes I ask for help. This incident seemed so plainly black and white from what I have learned in the two weeks I've been playing with you to be in my favor of having been wronged, that I was completely and utterly shocked to receive the response that I did. It was discouraging to say the least. Thank you for taking the time to read this and addressing it. I appreciate that a forum to maturally discuss incidents like these exist within your community.

 

TLDR: Got attacked then meta griefed, complained, was told to fuck off and warned for my actions.

 

Respectfully,

Jason Parras