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  1. Admin(s) Key: Nerfection
    Your ckey (Byond username): Goodtooth
    Your Discord name (if applicable): Good Tooth

    Date(s) of incident (GMT preferred):  1:17 PM Sunday, April 7, 2024

    ROUND ID: 39840

    Nature of complaint: Defending an Rdm,


    Brief description (tl;dr here. Just the critical elements): I'm new to this game but been playing and learned a lot after the week i been playing nonstop. i never felt like anything else was rdm but this felt like rdm in my soul I've never been killed for no reason the way i was killed. and he says it was my fault. The guy named Mark Simons (cant find byond name) didn't rp anything at all he just started attacking me knowing i didn't mean to do what i did and the fact i work for him, he also knew i was new.  Nerfection ignored everything he did he said it was my own fault and it was not Rdm when he is using a Weapon that can kill others. he could have used his hands or anything else non Lethel but he chose to use a Lethel weapon. that's 100% RDM


    Full description of events:

    Mark Simons knocks down Kyle Milky with the telescopic baton!
    Antonio Galopa says, "I'm deployed"
    Kyle Milky says, "Whoops"
    Mark Simons puts the hand tele into the scientist satchel.
    Mark Simons has grabbed Kyle Milky passively!
    Mark Simons has grabbed Kyle Milky aggressively (now hands)!
    [Common] [Security Officer] Jiggy says, "Or an atmos tech, it's disposals"
    Mark Simons has thrown Kyle Milky.
    You slam into the medical records console!
    Mark Simons says, "Really.."
    Kyle Milky says, "What are you doing"
    Mark Simons puts the hand tele into the scientist satchel.
    You have opened Admin Ticket number #2! Please be patient and we will help you soon!
    Adminhelp: rdm

     

    Adminhelp from-Game Admin Nerfection: Looking into it


    Adminhelp from-Game Admin Nerfection: mike simmons?

    Adminhelp to-Nerfection: yeah

     


    Adminhelp from-Game Admin Nerfection: any more context while I log dive into them?

     Adminhelp to-Nerfection: i dont know why he did what he did

     


    from-Game Admin Nerfection: and what exactly happened. Logs show a few of disarms and a throw

    to-Nerfection: yeah he made a portal and i was not done talking to him so i followed 

    to-Nerfection: i ran in it trying to get away from his attack didnt mean to go in it tho 

    to-Nerfection: he didnt rp nothing. i dont know why he attacked me  

     


    PM from-Game Admin Nerfection: And how did you end up in space? The last throw I see came *before* a disarm on the bridge


    to-Nerfection: he made more portals  (WINDOW)


    to-Nerfection: then he just stared throwing me 

     

     

    PM from-Game Admin Nerfection: I assume they batonned you because you followed them onto the bridge. Next time give the full context, as they didn't direcly kill you - you killed yourself by walking through a portal - which isn't really the same as 'rdm'

     

    to-Nerfection: Hold on now how am i going to know he was going there and he didnt tell me  

     


    PM from-Game Admin Nerfection: I don't think you *were* meant to know where he was going

     

    to-Nerfection: so why make it next to me. i had to ask him somthing  


    to-Nerfection: for me not knowing what he was doing and trying to rp with him i desrve death?


    to-Nerfection: all he had to do was say i cant be back there and i would have lefted.  i would have never went in the portal if i knew


    to-Nerfection: then he made a portal to space. useing a wep that can kill on someone is RDM. 

     


    PM from-Game Admin Nerfection: I assume he made a portal next to himself because he wanted to use the portal. You chose to go through the portal and then he - being followed by someone into a restricted area - kicked you out. They weren't required to talk to you first (nor after, though they actually did). You then went through another portal, and due to it not being calibrated you ended up in space. Portals can be dangerous


    to-Nerfection: not true at all he didnt say a word to me

    to-Nerfection: he only attacked me 

    to-Nerfection: i feared for my life and ran into a portal.

    to-Nerfection: what should i have done tell me?

    to-Nerfection: he had no right to attack me because i didnt break in

    to-Nerfection: i followed him and he seen me before i did


    PM from-Game Admin Nerfection:  Not going into unknown portals would have resulted in you not dying. You weren't 'killed' by Mark Simmons (at least not intentionally, and I think it's a bit of push to argue that it was negligently, either). You died due to a 40/60 split of your own actions and bad luck

     

    to-Nerfection: yo he made a port to a spot to someone is not allowed to go without rping saying no one can go in it 

    to-Nerfection: its 100% his fualt i was there in the first place  

    to-Nerfection: so he should have not attacked me 

     

    from-Game Admin Nerfection: You followed him of your own volition through a portal. That is not his fault.

     

    to-Nerfection: i followed him and he seen me before i did 

    to-Nerfection: that is his Fault

     


    from-Game Admin Nerfection:  No, he didn't. You killed you.

     


    to-Nerfection: are you serious?

    to-Nerfection: can i talk to another admin?

     


    from-Game Admin Nerfection:

    Yes. You walked though an unknown portal to the bridge, then as the RD tried to kick you out, you walked though another unknown portal that wasn't calibrated, which unluckily for you went to space. You may not talk to another admin, but if you are unhappy - as you seem to be - with my judgement here, you should feel free to make an admincomplaint at https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/73-admin-complaints/  with a 'misapplication of rules' complaint.

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